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Danny Gross <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:17:08 -0700
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Mitch,

I always provide an IPC356 netlist to the fab house, however not all fab
houses can use it.  As it turns out, the prototype fab house we use has a
verification software package called Royal Sceptor by Mentor Graphics.  I
run a script which produced several ".rpt" files which they import for
gerber verification against my CAD netlist.  There is one BIG PROBLEM!
This verification software cannot handle composites.  I did not know this
and as a result the verification was not done and we did indeed get back a
bad board.

Regards,

Danny

At 04:44 PM 10/21/98 PDT, you wrote:
>Danny,
>
>I assume you also provided the fab house and IPC-356 netlist to verify
>your gerbers. (????) If not, DO! I'm hearing so many horror stories on
>fab houses only doing gerber-gerber generated netlists for comparison!
>We've been burned 3 times in the last 6 months! They've even done it
>when we did provide the 356 netlist! Unfortunately for me, the vendor
>selection is out of my hands, but we are learning what the "low-cost"
>vendors do. I'm just happy we have some great fab houses in the So.Cal
>area!  :)
>
>Do provide an "electrical netlist" to verify the gerber files! And this
>is especially true if you use 274X.
>
>Good luck.
>
>Mitch Morey
>
>(P.S. you can get a SKILL routine for IPC-356 generation from the
>Cadence SourceLink site.)
>
>
>>Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:48:27 -0700
>>Reply-To:     "DesignerCouncil E-Mail Forum."
><[log in to unmask]>,
>>              Danny Gross <[log in to unmask]>
>>From:         Danny Gross <[log in to unmask]>
>>Subject:      Re: [DC] RS274X format problem
>>To:           [log in to unmask]
>>
>>I just recently submitted a RS274X output from Allegro Designer 13.0 to
>a
>>fab house that told me it would take them about 1 hour per layer to
>process
>>because of the number of composites.  I had to resubmit the data in
>>standard gerber format.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Danny Gross
>>
>>At 08:49 PM 10/13/98 -0400, you wrote:
>>>Hello,
>>>
>>>The fab house I'm using has encountered a problem importing my RS274X
>>artwork.
>>>I believe their software is having a hard time compositing(?) the
>power
>>plane layers.
>>>I'm still unsure what exactly is happening - I plan on visiting them
>>tomorrow and see
>>>first hand.
>>>
>>>My software (output) - Allegro designer - version 13
>>>Theirs (Input) - Tibor Davos - version unknown.
>>>
>>>Has anyone else experienced any difficulties with RS274X formatted
>power
>>and ground planes
>>>generated from Allegro??
>>>
>>>Any (I do mean ANY) help would be appreciated.
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>Dennis Ward
>>>Net to Net Technologies
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>>Danny Gross                                             (408)430-1706
>>PCB Design Eng.                                          [log in to unmask]
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Danny Gross                                             (408)430-1706
PCB Design Eng.                                          [log in to unmask]
E-MU Systems, Inc.                                       Pager(408)421-3603
Scotts Valley, CA

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