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Thanks all!  Very helpful information!



I will only be utilizing V-I-P for those ICs having a thermal pad under them.  Thus, limiting my use of them across the board.



Thanks and have a great week!



Bill Gebhardt, C.I.D. +

PCB Designer

Mission Systems

General Atomics Aeronautical Systems, Inc.

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From: Jack Olson [mailto:[log in to unmask]]

Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 9:02 AM

To: (Designers Council Forum) <[log in to unmask]>; Gebhardt, Bill <[log in to unmask]>

Subject: -EXT-Re: [DC] Via In Pad technology



It is probably more common to use Via-in-Pad for blind vias, or in HDI designs,

to tie signals to PWR/GND planes, or to get the signal to an inner layer where there is more room for routing.



V-I-P using vias that are drilled all the way through the board will have more headaches for you in manufacturing (and higher cost)



On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Gebhardt, Bill <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:

I am trying to gain a better understanding of when to use (or not use) V-I-P technology.



Can anyone tell me when it is NOT a good practice to use V-I-P technology?  What are the pros and cons to using them?  What about using a via for two components that are back-to-back (opposite sides of the board) which share the same net?



A fellow designer, an EE (or two) and even a Director of Engineering at my place feels (strongly, I might add) that it is not good practice; that there are substantial risks with it that are not worth taking (based on info gleaned using Google).



The layouts I do are primarily for airborne electronics.  The board in question is not too dense, so I am able to use standard technology in terms of via placement.  However, there are a few tight places where I readily used V-I-P, but...



Any input/insights will be greatly appreciated!



Bill Gebhardt, C.I.D. +

PCB Designer

Mission Systems

General Atomics Aeronautical Systems, Inc.

Bldg A03-1381D

16761 Via Del Campo Ct

San Diego, CA  92127



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