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Jack Olson <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 11 Mar 2014 11:30:41 -0500
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I'm posting using "Reply All" in Google Mail.

Not sure if it went through though.
Here is what I posted yesterday,
sorry if it didn't make it...

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I'm not disputing anything Marc said, but in my opinion Table 6-1 is one of
the weakest in the IPC "foundation".
If you ever hear Dieter tell the story of how the table came to be, you'll
wonder what the final numbers mean
(except for the empirical evidence that people have been using them for
decades with no serious consequences)

but even using your own common sense, look at column 1 (or B1):
100 volts needs 4 mils clearance, but 101 volts needs 8 mils?
absurd.

Regardless, I doubt the originators of the table ever intended those
numbers to mean the spacing in the vertical direction,
since that separation would be real insulating material with minimum
thickness requirement,
What was needed was a guideline for conductors in the same plane (edge to
edge spacing),
with variable air, solder mask material or conformal coating between.

So I know I'm not helping you Larry, but I wonder if scientific data would
show that
clearance ACROSS a material should be different than THROUGH a material.

just my opinion, but Table 6-1 needs to be revisited.


On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Larry Brophy <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Hi all, is there any table besides Table 6-1 in IPC-2221B that I can use
> for the layer seperation that takes into account the voltage resistance of
> FR4.  I know FR4 is good for 300V per mil and I need 500V isolation, if I
> use Table 6.1 I'm going to need  9.74mil between layers and have a very
> thick board.
>
> I have a customer that wants the design to be Class 3 and insists that I
> use this table unless I can find something in an IPC spec that allows me to
> use the voltage resistance of FR4 instead of this table.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Larry
>
>
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