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yes please Bob

Bob Landman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>Yes, it's a whitewash job, IMHO. I invited Dr Gilbert to our weekly  
>tin whiskers telecon last week.  He was very humble and forthcoming on  
>what he knew and what he did not know.
>
>He shared pictures of the APP (accelerator pedal module) which has SMT  
>resistors and caps and a small SOIC package that converts two  
>redundant Hall sensors that the magnets attached to the pedals move  
>by.  That results in a 1-4Vdc signal.  Tin plated connector soldered  
>to the board.  Plenty of locations for whisker shorts to do what  
>Toyota's so-called expert said "can't possibly happen".
>
>If you would like to see the pictures and his technical report I'd be  
>happy to share them with you.
>
>Bob Landman
>H&L Instruments, LLC
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On Mar 18, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Chris Mahanna <[log in to unmask]>  
>wrote:
>
>> Has anyone else reviewed the Toyota slideshow and related PR on the  
>> Dr. Gilbert debunking?
>>
>> http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/document/Exponent_ProfGilbert_8Mar10.pdf
>>
>> As part of their "defense" they have totally laid-out the fault tree  
>> and required sequencing.
>> Assuming that it is an under-hood box, with a little material and  
>> process information (like finish, solder, laminate, compliant pin?)  
>> it appears to me to likely be a quick FA.
>> The fact that there is complete silence about any (IMO obvious) FA  
>> hypothesis is very intriguing.
>>
>> Although I have no specific information!, I think it highly unlikely  
>> that Toyota doesn't know the root (electronic) cause for at least  
>> some of them.
>> If Michael Pecht or one of my competitors has their hands on a  
>> faulty unit the public should know the answer soon enough.  If not,  
>> it probably means tort beat quality one more time (aren't they  
>> supposed to work in consort!?)
>>
>> I think it will be very interesting to see how the legislators and  
>> regulators handle such a situation.
>>
>> Chris
>>
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