yes please Bob Bob Landman <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >Yes, it's a whitewash job, IMHO. I invited Dr Gilbert to our weekly >tin whiskers telecon last week. He was very humble and forthcoming on >what he knew and what he did not know. > >He shared pictures of the APP (accelerator pedal module) which has SMT >resistors and caps and a small SOIC package that converts two >redundant Hall sensors that the magnets attached to the pedals move >by. That results in a 1-4Vdc signal. Tin plated connector soldered >to the board. Plenty of locations for whisker shorts to do what >Toyota's so-called expert said "can't possibly happen". > >If you would like to see the pictures and his technical report I'd be >happy to share them with you. > >Bob Landman >H&L Instruments, LLC > >Sent from my iPhone > >On Mar 18, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Chris Mahanna <[log in to unmask]> >wrote: > >> Has anyone else reviewed the Toyota slideshow and related PR on the >> Dr. Gilbert debunking? >> >> http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/document/Exponent_ProfGilbert_8Mar10.pdf >> >> As part of their "defense" they have totally laid-out the fault tree >> and required sequencing. >> Assuming that it is an under-hood box, with a little material and >> process information (like finish, solder, laminate, compliant pin?) >> it appears to me to likely be a quick FA. >> The fact that there is complete silence about any (IMO obvious) FA >> hypothesis is very intriguing. >> >> Although I have no specific information!, I think it highly unlikely >> that Toyota doesn't know the root (electronic) cause for at least >> some of them. >> If Michael Pecht or one of my competitors has their hands on a >> faulty unit the public should know the answer soon enough. If not, >> it probably means tort beat quality one more time (aren't they >> supposed to work in consort!?) >> >> I think it will be very interesting to see how the legislators and >> regulators handle such a situation. >> >> Chris >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. >> For more information please contact helpdesk at x2960 or [log in to unmask] >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 15.0 >> To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following >> text in >> the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet >> To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask] >> : SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) >> To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask] >> : SET Technet Digest >> Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives >> Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 >> for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] >> or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 >> ----------------------------------------------------- >> > >______________________________________________________________________ >This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. >For more information please contact helpdesk at x2960 or [log in to unmask] >______________________________________________________________________ > >--------------------------------------------------- >Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 15.0 >To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in >the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet >To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) >To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest >Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives >Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815 >----------------------------------------------------- > ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please contact helpdesk at x2960 or [log in to unmask] ______________________________________________________________________