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The size of the LF BGA (thermal mass) is important consideration before starting this process.

Small BGAs (DDRs) are an easy decision than 1000 and more LF BGAs mix profile process.



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Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 9:38 PM

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Subject: Re: [TN] Lead Free BGA'S



Hi Richard - your comments provide good additional ideas to keep in mind.

The folks at Celestica (Dr. Polina Snugovsky and crew) have published a

couple of papers since my paper first was released to the public which are

very good and give a better overall bandwidth discussion on the different

aspects of achieving good solder joint integrity in a mixed situation. One

issue I know that all of the "camps" include in their discussions is the

impact of the increased reflow temperature on the integrity of the

tin/lead solder process qualified components. Your "Camp C"  option is a

good attempt to find a solution and balance all of the competing

advantages/disadvantages. Richard Coyle published a good paper at the 2008

SMTAI Conference with contained some excellent data on the impact of

mixing. I am hoping that we get a few more papers this year from the

industry research that show the impact of a hybrid situation in a product

type test.



Dave







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 I echo Dave Hillman's response, with some additional considerations. I

am of Camp C, which sort of agrees with Camp A and also Camp B. But Camp

C is very concerned with trying to reflow lead-free BGAs using a 63/37

paste and profile, albeit slightly higher, which I think is the "hybrid"

reflow profile which John's assembly house is probably using. The

concern here is that the circuit board material and the components

themselves were probably not selected and/or qualified to be subjected

to the higher reflow temperatures and longer times needed to achieve the

completely mixed (homogenous) alloy. In addition, I know of no studies

or industry data that tested this particular alloy combination.



I would have to say that if you are attempting to reflow this

combination, and are also using ENIG as a surface finish, the risks of

running into issues with the solder joint reliability, the via

reliability, and the rest of the component's reliability are stacked

against you.



I cannot say enough good things about Dave's paper on the subject. I

used it as a reference document in my paper published in this month's

Circuits Assembly magazine. I think if you read both papers you will

come away with a better understanding of the risks of assembling the

Pb-free BGAs using leaded solder. What will become very clear to you is

that you should never attempt to do this without fully qualifying the

process to ensure you are not doing something harmful to the rest of the

components and/or the circuit board itself, so you do not end up with a

huge problem later. As you can see by some of the other respondents,

that is what happened to them, and they are certainly not the only ones

that this happened to. I have been called in to look at this issue more

than once, and it gets real expensive in a hurry.





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Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 11:23 AM

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Hi John! Well, I have a response that probably isn't what you are

looking for - " it depends" (cha-ching, Doug gets another Mt. Dew).

There are two basic camps out in the industry: Camp A: don't use a

lead-free BGA in a tin/lead solder process because you just don't know

what the resulting solder joint may be; (2) Camp B: increase the reflow

temperature so that the lead-free BGA in a tin/lead solder process can

reach a uniform distribution of Pb throughout the solder joint. Some of

the published reports also indicate that the BGA construction specifics

(i.e. material type, die size, I/O, ball metallurgy, e.g.) can play a

significant role in whether the solder joint integrity would be

compromised.  The

2006/2007/2008 SMTAI Conference proceedings are good sources of

published papers on the topic. Good Luck.



Dave Hillman

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Our assembly house recently assembled some boards with Lead Free BGA's

for

us

and when I asked them if they used a lead free process they responded

with.



We use leaded solder (Sn63Pb37) with a hybrid oven profile to

accommodate

the lead-free BGA. I hope this answers your question. Please let me know



if you have any more questions."

Is this a common process, is this a reliable process



Any input is appreciated



Thank You

John Foster





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