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Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:03:54 +0300
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Textual copy/paste from the EC regulation:
[quote]
Article 5

Control of the use of hydrochlorofluorocarbons

1. Subject to the following conditions, the use of 
hydrochlorofluorocarbons shall be prohibited:

(a) in aerosols;

(b) as solvents:

(i) in non-contained solvent uses including open-top cleaners and 
open-top dewatering systems without refrigerated areas, in adhesives and 
mould-release agents when not employed in closed equipment, for drain 
cleaning where hydrochlorofluorocarbons are not recovered;

(ii) from 1 January 2002, in all solvent uses, with the exception of 
precision cleaning of electrical and other components in aerospace and 
aeronautics applications where the prohibition shall enter into force on 
31 December 2008;
[/quote]

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:32000R2037:EN:HTML

This therefore applies to ALL hydrochlorofluorocarbons, including 
HCFC-225, as well as HCFC-141b.

In any case HCFC-225 has a lower BP than HCFC-141b and is much less 
aggressive, even as a degreaser, so cannot be considered as a "drop-in" 
replacement.

It would seem that HFC/HFE solvents are all that remain as in-kind 
substitutes (I'm not sure whether they are targeted by the EU 
authorities for their GWP), but you will find they are much more 
difficult to use than 141b - and they are also much more expensive.

Brian

Lee Whiteman wrote:
> Brian and Juan,
> 
> Is HCFC-225 still legal to use? 
> 
> With the alcohol and HCFC-225 azeotrope, it should perform as well as HCFC-141B.
> 
> Lee Whiteman, PMP
> Senior Member Engineering Staff
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Ellis
> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 9:27 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] Big problem when coating with Parylene C.
> 
> Re: bans on HCFC-141b
> 
> This substance was banned from use as a solvent on 1 January 2002 across 
> the EU (EC Regulation 2037/2000). There are certain exemptions to the 
> HCFC use ban e.g. a temporary exemption for precision cleaning of 
> electrical and other components in aerospace and aeronautics 
> applications where the use ban shall enter into force on 31 December 2008.
> 
> If you are not in that industry sector exemption, you should not be 
> using it. If you do fit into that exemption, you have exactly three 
> months to qualify a substitute cleaning process.
> 
> Sorry, but that's the law.
> 
> Brian
> 
> Juan T. Marugán wrote:
>> Good evening from Spain.
>>
>> The problem we have is the following. After soldering, we conformal coating a 
>> class 3 polyamide board (blind vias) with Parylene C. Until this moment, all is 
>> OK.
>>
>> Then, the board pass the ESS -thermal cycling-, and it is at this moment 
>> when appears a halo around the solder joints. The test tape performed in that 
>> area fails. I�ll send some pictures to Steeve Gregory for reference.
>>
>> We have coated at the same time (and processed in the same conditions, 
>> that is soldering, cleaning�) the �suspicions� polyamide boards with other type 
>> of boards (polyamide & rigid). We only obtain negative results with the first 
>> ones.
>>
>> We have sent some boards to an external lab for FTIR testing, and we are 
>> waiting for the final results.
>>
>> Our though is that cause of the problem is the PCB, but we need to 
>> demonstrate it. It's like some contaminant appears under the conformal 
>> coating caused by the temperature (from the inner layers of the PCB?)
>>
>> So, what we need is that somebody turns the �light� on.
>>
>> Thank you for your help.
>>
>>
>>
>> Juan T. Marugán López
>> Supply Chain Management
>> Indra Sistemas SA (Spain)
>>
>> [log in to unmask]
>> www.indra.es
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