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Hi Phil
You can replace BGAs that have been parylene coated - but you really,
really have to want to.  Not a recommended activity.

And I have to disagree with Bogert as well.  Shadowing is a known part
of the process, any drawing that does not specify special techniques or
materials can expect to have no coating under BGAs, as well as other low
profile parts.  Do you have any vias under QFPs?  They won't be
coated...

regards,

Graham Collins
Process Engineer,
L-3 Communications Electronic Systems Inc.
Halifax
(902) 873-2000 ext 6215

>>> [log in to unmask] 11/20/06 07:43PM >>>
i'm sorry, i just can't help myself.  parylene is a great coating, but
i
don't think you'll be removing and replacing any bga's that have been
conformally coated with parylene.  just another engineering tradeoff
to
consider.

phil

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David D. Hillman
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 3:27 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] BGA and conformal coating

Hi Bogert! Sorry but I respectfully disagree. If the contract requires
the assembly to be conformal coating and provides no other process
guidance then I would process the assembly in accordance with best
industry practice/accepted material process practice for the
particular
conformal coating material specified. As other TechNettees have
documented, intentionally forcing AR or UR conformal coating under a
component is not standard conformal coating practice as the such an
action results in degraded component/product integrity due to CTE
mismatch for many use environments. However, if I was using a
paralyene
conformal coating, standard material process practice is quite the
opposite - paralyene conformal coating is design to coat all pwa
surfaces. The application process for each conformal coating material
dictates how/where it should be applied unless there are specific
instruction that deviate from standard practice (such as a specific
exclusion area for RF, etc.).

Dave



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             PM                        Re: [TN] BGA and conformal
coating


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If the contract assembly drawing requires the assembly to be conformal
coated, unless it also allows the area under the BGA to be free of
coating, then you are in violation of the contract drawing regardless
of
what 610 says or does not say.
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: David D. Hillman<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
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  Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 2:20 PM
  Subject: Re: [TN] BGA and conformal coating


  Hi Joe - Your statement......." type AR or type UR does not coat the
BGA
  solder balls/solder connections located under the BGA so you are
violating
  the acceptability requirements in IPC-A-610" has me some confused.
What
  IPC-A-610 requirement is violated?

  Dave Hillman
  Rockwell Collins
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                                         Re: [TN] BGA and conformal
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               11/20/2006 12:47
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               Please respond to
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  Vered,

  I would start with IPC-A-610 and J-STD-001 documents. One item that
is
over
  looked is that spraying a board with for example type AR or type UR
does
  not
  coat the BGA solder balls/solder connections located under the BGA
so
you
  are violating the acceptability requirements in IPC-A-610!

  Good luck,
  - Joe


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Vered BS [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
  Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 8:40 AM
  To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
  Subject: [TN] BGA and conformal coating

  looking for reviews/articles or case studies regarding conformal
coating on
  BGA
  for military/aerospace environment
  Appreciate any comment or sharing your experiance
  Thanks
  Vered

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