Richard,
> Many mobile phone manufacturers have been lead free for some time now,
> I'm talking years in the case of one very large manufacturer. I'm sure
> there will be problems but for consumer products at least, I don't
> expect them be huge.
>
> Tell me, I'm too young to know, were there similar cries of doom and
> gloom when IBM started forcing the electronics industry over to SMD
> technology in the 80'S?
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Stadem, Richard D. wrote:
>> "And we haven't yet seen the reliability blow-ups and resulting
>> fall-out, yet."
>>
>> Where did that come from? More solid facts, figures and logic?
>>
>> The electronics industry is indeed seeing some fallout, mostly within
>> the factories in terms of process issues as discussed within these
>> forums. The issues that have been reported are wetting problems,
>> delamination, reduced component reliability, open vias and copper pads
>> dissolving away during soldering and rework with Sn100, great increases
>> in tombstoning and spattering, to mention just a few reported here.
>>
>> I would expect more problems experienced in terms of shorter reliability
>> about July of 2007, if not sooner. Get ready, Werner.
>>
>> And that's just what we know for sure. How many of the problems
>> associated with lead-free product reliability do you think will be
>> openly reported? Or even detected accurately, for that matter?
>>
>> Is anyone going to announce to the world that they are getting more
>> field returns than they did before they switched? Swatch is going to be
>> an exception to the rule.
>>
>> Somehow, I don't think that Airbus is going to announce, "Well, folks,
>> we tried out that there fancy new-fangled lead-free teknolchy, and by
>> golly it didn't work as well as we thought it would. Shoulda seen the
>> size of the hole in the ground."
>>
>> But, then, perhaps we should report it. I can't think of a better way to
>> end this nonsense...........
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Harvey Miller
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 2:25 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [LF] Why EU Not Busting for RoHS Violations Yet
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> Penetration of lead-free solder in North America is about 50%. If you
>> substitute U.S., Canada, and Mexico for China you'll be closer to the
>> mark.
>> But the idea you express is probably correct. The EU will indeed have
>> an enforcement problem.
>>
>> And we haven't yet seen the reliability blow-ups and resulting fall-out,
>> yet.
>>
>> Go back to the drawing board, EU, and do it right. Exempt lead in
>> electronics!
>>
>> --- Brian Epstein <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> It has occurred to me that enforcement bodies in the EU have probably
>>> done a significant amount of product testing for the six substances
>>> and have found that products from European companies generally comply
>>> and products from China generally don't. Since China exports so much,
>>>
>>
>>
>>> the Europeans might not know how to deal with these products because
>>> of the anticipated market disruptions, the resultant economic chaos,
>>> and the political fallout.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Brian Epstein
>>> Sr Regulatory Compliance Engineer
>>> Veeco Instruments
>>> ph: 805-967-2700 ext 2315
>>> fx: 805-967-7717
>>> ce: 805-591-9587
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mike Kirschner
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 9:05 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: [LF] EU Not Busting for RoHS Violations Yet
>>>
>>> Rob Spiegel spoke, at our behest, to Steve Andrews to get a clear
>>> response on why we haven't seen any visible cases of non-compliance in
>>>
>>
>>
>>> the EU yet. He has more credibility on this topic than just about
>>> anyone, even DCA ;o)
>>>
>>> You can read his story, entitled "EU Not Busting for RoHS Violations
>>> Yet", at
>>>
>>> http://www.designnews.com/article/CA6387098.html
>>>
>>> So the bottom line is that they're trying to find that first case to
>>> go public with.
>>>
>>> Mike Kirschner
>>> Design Chain Associates, LLC
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