The non renewable resource energy costs environmentally (forget the dollars
for a second) are well documented. Environmentally the removal of lead in
solders is a detrimental environmental impact as is documented by the
references on my web site.
Regarding the dollar costs to date, I believe Harvey Miller has been quoted
as having estimated that to date it has cost the industry somewhere in the
region of 80 billion dollars. What the ongoing costs are I have no idea
perhaps Harvey has some data on that?
Harvey correct me if I am wrong on that number, you are the
economist.....8-)
John
-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D.
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 4:34 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LF] Cost pressures starting!
Sorry, Chris, but 15% is a major increase. What has this got to do with
energy cost? If anything, this blasted RoHS directive is costing
everyone a lot more in energy costs, for having to drive the reflow at
250 C. rather than 220, as a single small example.
RoHS is a collosal waste of time, energy, and money with only a negative
impact. Whoever created this directive should rightfully be held legally
responsible. It will be looked upon historically with scorn as a classic
example of irresponsible legislation.
-----Original Message-----
From: James, Chris [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 3:19 AM
To: (Leadfree Electronics Assembly Forum); Stadem, Richard D.
Subject: RE: [LF] Cost pressures starting!
Did you do that when you had to meet the LVD and EMC requirements? - I
think not............. do you complain when energy costs rise - in the
UK they have moved up 40% over 2 years - laminate well that represents a
small part of a product cost and the difference between FR4 and new
laminate like IS410 is about 15% - I suggest your bean counters look
elsewhere to escalating costs.....................
Regards,
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D.
Sent: 09 May 2006 18:26
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LF] Cost pressures starting!
I thought about that. Seriously, there are grounds for a class-action
lawsuit against the EU Parliament. You see, there is this thing called
due diligence........
-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of DeGenova, Jon R.
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:11 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LF] Cost pressures starting!
Have your accountants invoice the European Parliament for the cost
differential. In fact, maybe all electronics manufacturers world wide
should file a class action lawsuit for any costs directly related to
meeting their RoHS requirements. :-)
- Jon
-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Pete Houwen
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:12 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [LF] Cost pressures starting!
We have successfullly made the transtition, and are beginning to produce
complaint products.
And that's starting to drive the bean counters into a frenzy. Our new
PCB material spec is calling for 330Td, non-dicy, Z-Axis max, etc... and
guess what, - it costs more than the old 140Tg material. Now they want
to go back to the old material - throw out a year of research and
testing - because they ran a few boards using the old material.
The questions are - is anyone running lead free solder processes using
the old standard 140Tg, in any kind of volume, with any measurable
quality?
How do you convince them that RoHS just costs more, but it will get
cheaper eventually?
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