Hi paul
That would have been good, and it was considred, but it is not possible
for some legal reason that I cant remember.
Kay
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From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of to Paul Taylor
Sent: 28 January 2005 13:34
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Subject: Re: [LF] RoHS Labelling again!
Thanks to everyone for their comments and information:
I have one idea that has stuck in my mind, but I don't know if it is to
late to implement it or whether its workable:
Why couldn't the RoHS be incorporated into the CE mark? We already have
this label and mark in use, and it covers a multitude of equipment with
different variances (i.e from medical, power supplies, telecom etc to
plastic cups). It covers the low voltage directive and also different
EMC
specifications for different types of equipment.
The right to place the CE mark is audited and financed, therefore it is
sort of self policed, the CE mark is place on the final equipment (like
where we want to place the RoHS label). With the conversation around
about
haw will we know if the supplier has been diligent in saying that his
equipment is RoHS complaint this would mean that when the manufacturer
applies for the right to place the CE mark, he would also have to show
that
he was RoHS compliant. This procedure is the same for UL as well.
using
the CE mark to include RoHS would also allow manufacturers to list
non-compliant levels by exemption (an example here would be cadmium in
high
power switches which are exempt)
This solution would be a way out for the EU directive people as at the
offset of the directive, it should have been spelled out how the
directive
was to be administered and policed, and one of the key points in that is
identification of compliant product!! In other words the same as CE
Is there anyone from the DTI still on the forum that could answer this?
Do other members think this is a good idea?
note:The WEEE label is different as its not connected with manufacture
more with end of life and I believe that a separate label for this is
the
correct way to move forward
regards
paul
Paul R Taylor
Senior Engineer, Product Supply Group
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Kay Nimmo
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If you would like to know more about labelling then look at the
documents on our website;
www.lead-free.org /information/supply chain issues/marking and
labelling.....
or direct
http://www.tintechnology.biz/soldertec/soldertec.aspx?page_id=1637&Selec
tedMenu_ID=73
In particular, the January 2004 Soldertec Global European Pb-Free
Marking Survey and June 2004 paper and presentation on RoHS Marking -
Lead-free Components and Board Marking as Marking for Environmental
Issues (Electronics goes Green 2004). You may need to register (free) -
I dont know.
In fact it is the US standards bodies who are reluctant to agree on RoHS
marks proposed in Europe or Japan. If you can get them to change their
mind on the need for RoHS marking then that would be very helpful for
everyone.
Kay
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From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Shawn Vike (By way
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Sent: 25 January 2005 22:54
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Subject: Re: [LF] RoHS Labelling again!
Paul,
It's nice to see that I am not the only dreamer. It only stands to
reason that we will eventually need some kind of labeling for RoHS
compliance, and a standard would be wonderful.
Maybe if people started to agree on a convention, like your "simple
(light )green "RoHS" in plain Arial text" suggestion, we could make it
happen. I would prefer to avoid specifying a color, as it is my
intention to screen this directly on the PCBs (when they are compliant)
but the concept is good!
Shawn Vike
Operations Manager
Pathway Connectivity Inc.
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>> I know this subject has been banded about a couple of times, but i
was
>> interested in the direction some of you guys are going on this
subject.
>> The WEEE labelling appears to be sorted (crossed out wheelie bin
etc), and
>> so to is the PCB assembly identification (as supplied by Jedec), but
what
>> about RoHS?.
>> There appears to be no "general purpose label" for the RoHS
compliance on
>> the market, which I see as important, I think that the people who set
out
>> the WEEE label should have done a RoHS one as well at the same time,
its
>> not rocket science is it?.
>> The problem for many of you, like the company I'm working for, is
that
>> there is a long supply chain and multiple stores locations, we also
have
>> parts back in for refurbish and we out source both assembly work and
units
>> to sub-contractors and OEMs alike and we assemble in house as well,
in
>> general we have parts every where. We have many assemblies that are
>> either
>> "RoHS compliant" or will be either coming in "RoHS compliant" over
the
>> next
>> 17 months. We wish to label these as compliant so that we can ensure
that
>> our stocks have been properly stock turned and also to maintain
>> traceability. Obviously we don't want to label every nut and bolt,
but we
>> do want to label the 'higher level assemblies' that are compliant,
and
>> also
>> importantly identify the outside of our units, as basically after
>> conversion there would be no visible differences.
>> If other companies are labelling their units, what symbol is being
used?
>> As
>> one problem for our goods inwards is identifying the 'RoHS
compliancy'
>> label for every supplier!!
>> My suggestion would the a simple (light )green "RoHS" in plain Arial
text,
>> maybe the directive number in small print underneath, does any one
else
>> have any ideas.
>> regards
>> Paul
>> PS Perhaps I should patent my label!!!!!
>> Paul R Taylor
>> Senior Engineer, Product Supply Group
>> Pitney Bowes Ltd
>> email: [log in to unmask]
>> website: www.pb.com
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