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Ron, Irene and all

I think we have to remember that RoHS is not just 'lead free' its a
complete directive (like the CE mark). The IPC document is really aimed at
identifying the lead-free PCB assembly as a part of the finished product.

k
Kay's soldertec document (which I've just downloaded) is very informative
and I think everyone on this forum at least should read and return
constructive views on (thanks to Kay for this) and out of this, the diamond
style labels look very interesting to me.  We are going to review the use
of this internally first before we 'make our own'.

As a personal review of the labels, i think example 2 has the most going
for it, this is the simple Green diamond shape with "RoHS 2002/95/EC"
inside.  It may be a  little confusing to some end users as to its use, as
some of the other label examples offer part exemptions.  However, this may
be useful in the future (for example, if you have cadmium switch, which is
now exempt, the unit is manufactured in accordance with the RoHS but the
cadmium would fall outside the permitted limits).  (ps Kay: could you send
me an image file of just the labels so I can do some sample labels here?)

Anyway any of them if not all, would be relatively easy to adopt worldwide,
as everybody wants one!!. just remember...simple labels cos not all of us
are engineers.  Take the BSI kite mark, most of the general public probably
think is a warning symbol as its in a triangle (like our road signs!!)

In response to Irena's mail, I'd like to say that all 'international'
labels have the same date of build issue, CE, UL etc labels don't have the
date that they are valid from, and yes the specification can change.  There
would be no backward compatibility need as the supplier would ensure that
his new product met the ongoing requirements.  If we had backwards
comparability we'd be in product recalls all the time....not cost
effective!!!! and a nightmare to police.

regards

Paul


Paul R Taylor
Senior Engineer, Product Supply Group
Pitney Bowes Ltd
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Dear All,

Why don't we use de IPC-1066 - Marking, Symbols and Labels for
Identification of Lead-Free and Other Reportable Materials in Lead-Free
Assemblies, Components and Devices. This standard is free to download and
is
not a draft version. See http://www.ipc.org/TOC/IPC-1066.pdf

Ron Fonsaer
Training Specialist
PIEK international Education Centre

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Van: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Namens to Paul Taylor
Verzonden: dinsdag 25 januari 2005 18:12
Aan: [log in to unmask]
Onderwerp: [LF] RoHS Labelling again!

Dear All

I know this subject has been banded about a couple of times, but i was
interested in the direction some of you guys are going on this subject.
The WEEE labelling appears to be sorted (crossed out wheelie bin etc), and
so to is the PCB assembly identification (as supplied by Jedec), but what
about RoHS?.

There appears to be no "general purpose label" for the RoHS compliance on
the market, which I see as important, I think that the people who set out
the WEEE label should have done a RoHS one as well at the same time, its
not rocket science is it?.

The problem for many of you, like the company I'm working for,  is that
there is a long supply chain and multiple stores locations, we also have
parts back in for refurbish and we out source both assembly work and units
to sub-contractors and OEMs alike and we assemble in house as well, in
general we have parts every where.  We have many assemblies that are either
"RoHS compliant" or will be either coming in "RoHS compliant" over the next
17 months.  We wish to label these as compliant so that we can ensure that
our stocks have been properly stock turned and also to maintain
traceability.  Obviously we don't want to label every nut and bolt, but we
do want to label the 'higher level assemblies' that are compliant, and also
importantly identify the outside of our units, as basically after
conversion there would be no visible differences.

If other companies are labelling their units, what symbol is being used? As
one problem for our goods inwards is identifying the 'RoHS compliancy'
label for every supplier!!

My suggestion would the a simple (light )green "RoHS" in plain Arial text,
maybe the directive number in small print underneath, does any one else
have any ideas.

regards

Paul


PS Perhaps I should patent my label!!!!!

Paul R Taylor
Senior Engineer, Product Supply Group
Pitney Bowes Ltd
email: [log in to unmask]
website: www.pb.com
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