Brian,
that's a tough one!!! One more reason not to scold children when they are
spilling the MSC. Not being as poisoned as we are, their instinct still says
"get rid of it, don't put it in your mouth".
Any other websites of the kind?
Regards,
Ioan
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Ellis [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 11:03 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] Wash your hands after using your "toxic" computer
>
> Not to mention the halogenated monosodium chloride (MSC)
> http://www.bnellis.com/msc/ and http://www.bnellis.com/msc/MSC_MSDS.htm
>
> Brian
>
> Tom Gervascio wrote:
>
> > Probably the same idiots that wanted to ban dihydrogen monoxide- a real
> killer- colorless, odorless resulting in the deaths of thousands of people
> annually! Write your congressman!
> >
> > Tom Gervascio
> > Senior Process Engineer
> > Sparton Electronics
> > (352) 540-4040
> >
> >
> >>>>[log in to unmask] 06/04/04 10:30AM >>>
> >
> > This is the kind of scare tactics that resulted in RoHS. An art form
> > disguised as science. I suppose everyone who has worked in a
> > drilling/machining shop, since FR-4 became popular about 35 years or so
> > ago, is already dead from exposure to dust from the TBBPA compounds? I'd
> > guess there would be more danger from the glass dust.
> >
> > May the good Lord preserve me from extremists, cranks, technocrats and
> > the misguided.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > Dennis Fritz wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Just saw this on the internet. Wonderful new publicity about brominated
> >>flame retardants. Have posted to HalogenFree forum, but am so mad that
> I can't
> >>resist posting here, too. What a wonderful piece of scientific
> reporting.
> >>
> >>Denny Fritz
> >>MacDermid, Inc.
> >>****************************************
> >>Updated: 03:42 AM EDT
> >>'Toxic Dust' on Computers Tied to Disease
> >>By RACHEL KONRAD, AP
> >>
> >>SAN FRANCISCO (June 3) - "Toxic dust" found on computer processors and
> >>monitors contains chemicals linked to reproductive and neurological
> disorders,
> >>according to a new study by several environmental groups.
> >>
> >>AP
> >>
> >>The survey, released Thursday by Silicon Valley Toxics Coalition,
> Computer
> >>TakeBack Campaign and Clean Production Action, is among the first to
> identify
> >>brominated flame retardants on the surfaces of common devices in homes
> and
> >>offices.
> >>
> >>Electronics companies began using polybrominated diphenyl (PBDEs) and
> other
> >>flame retardants in the 1970s, arguing that the toxins prevent fires and
> cannot
> >>escape from plastic casings.
> >>
> >>"This will be a great surprise to everyone who uses a computer," said
> Ted
> >>Smith, director of the Toxics Coalition. "The chemical industry is
> subjecting us
> >>all to what amounts to chemical trespass by putting these substances
> into use
> >>in commerce. They continue to use their chemicals in ways that are
> affecting
> >>humans and other species."
> >>
> >>Researchers collected samples of dust from dozens of computers in eight
> >>states, including university computer labs in New York, Michigan and
> Texas,
> >>legislative offices in California, and an interactive computer display
> at a
> >>children's museum in Maine. They tested for three types of brominated
> flame retardants
> >>suspected to be hazardous.
> >>
> >>The most toxic piece of equipment discovered by the researchers was a
> new
> >>flat-screen monitor in a university in New York, implying that newer
> equipment
> >>isn't necessarily cleaner.
> >>
> >>Penta- and octa-brominated diphenyl will be taken off the market by the
> end
> >>of the year. Environmental groups are demanding legislation that would
> ban
> >>deca-brominated diphenyl, too.
> >>
> >>PBDEs, which have caused neurological damage in laboratory rats in
> numerous
> >>studies, are related to polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs). PCBs have been
> used
> >>in fire extinguishers, fluorescent lights and liquid insulators since
> the 1920s.
> >>
> >>PCBs were outlawed in the 1970s, but the toxins don't erode and still
> persist
> >>in the environment.
> >>
> >>The Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, part of the U.S.
> >>Department of Health and Human Services, and several other organizations
> have
> >>confirmed that PCBs damage brains of human fetuses.
> >>
> >>Scientists have not directly correlated exposure to PBDEs with specific
> >>diseases or developmental impairment. Researchers at University of
> California,
> >>Davis, and elsewhere are studying possible links between brominated
> flame
> >>retardants and autism, but results are years away.
> >>
> >>Independent researchers who reviewed the new study say consumers
> shouldn't
> >>throw out their computers, and they needn't wear special gloves or
> minimize
> >>exposure to computer monitors. There's no known way to remove dust-born
> PBDEs, so
> >>special wipes or sprays wouldn't reduce chemical exposure.
> >>
> >>"The levels in the dust are enough to raise a red flag, but not enough
> to
> >>create a crisis," said Dr. Gina Solomon, senior scientist at the Natural
> >>Resources Defense Council and assistant professor of medicine at
> University of
> >>California, San Francisco. "I have an old computer monitor in front of
> me now, and
> >>I'm not about to throw it away. But when I get a new one, it darn well
> will be
> >>free of these chemicals."
> >>
> >>The electronics industry has been reducing or eliminating some
> brominated
> >>flame retardants since the late 1990s, when European countries began
> prohibiting
> >>the sale of products that contain the chemicals.
> >>
> >>Dell Inc. and many other computer makers continue using a flame
> retardant
> >>related to PBDEs on circuit boards. They use lead, mercury and other
> toxins in
> >>central processing units and monitors. But Dell, along with Apple
> Computer Inc.
> >>and others, stopped using PBDEs in 2002.
> >>
> >>"People can be very confident about their new computer purchase," Dell
> >>spokesman Bryant Hilton said. "We've worked a lot with suppliers, and we
> require
> >>audits and material data sheets on all our products. It's an important
> topic to
> >>be aware of, and brominated flame retardants are something we've been
> very
> >>focused on and will continue to be focused on."
> >>
> >>On the Net:
> >>
> >>Silicon Valley Toxics Coalition: http://www.svtc.org
> >>
> >>
> >>06/03/04 22:59 EDT
> >>
> >>Copyright 2004 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP
> news
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> distributed
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