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Here's my understanding of the problem for what it's worth..

If you think of the impedance matched signals as a differential pair, the
signal trace and its return path in the plane need to stay together,
equidistant, as much as possible much like common differential pairs are run
horizontally matched, only these 'micro strip' traces are matched vertically
through the dielectric instead of parallel in the same layer. Consistent
impedance matching keeps the energy being sent down the line from reflecting
or radiating into space and it all arrives at the destination load and is
used and the returned currents follow along the return path directly under
the signal trace, in the plane...

Nothing should break that pair's equidistant relationship, otherwise you
have a change in the relative impedance resulting in a release of RF energy
and reflections and EMI that occur due to that change.  An RF signal track
that is run across a broken plane acts like a huge relative impedance change
between the track and the return path, increasing the energy radiated from
the trace that essentially gets radiated as EMI. The return currents must
find a different path that is not directly under the signal trace and move
around the obstruction or slot in the plane creating a mismatch.. In
essence, you have created an antenna. Lee Hill explains all of this much
better than I can, his website is http://www.silent-solutions.com/



Bill Brooks, CID


-----Original Message-----
From: Brooks,Bill [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [DC] Reference Planes for Impedance Controlled Signals

Can you say 'Slot Antenna'... <grin>

I think Lee Hill's presentation at PCB West on EMI/EMC demonstrated so well
the danger of split planes and crossing the split with high speed signals or
RF and the resulting harmonic EMI levels that spilled out all over the radio
frequency spectrum..

Seriously, placement is the key.... and never cross the split or better yet
have no split at all.


Bill Brooks


-----Original Message-----
From: Jack C. Olson [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [DC] Reference Planes for Impedance Controlled Signals

8MHz

Here's more info. We have a PowerPC processor BGA
that has many +5V and +2.6V pins. Instead of trying
to do a split plane, and having the impedance controlled
stuff possibly traveling over a split, I thought it was
better to have both a solid +5v plane and solid +2.6v
planes on different layers. But as soon as you do that,
you have some signals closer to one plane that the other,
and the question is will there be signal integrity issues
by using the +5v plane as a reference.

On the other hand, how do you guys create complicated
split planes and keep signals from crossing the split?
(Veribest/Mentor Expedition/Mentor BoardStationRE
router)

thanks,
Jack





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And...What frequency is the circuit operating at ?    Khz or Mhz or Ghz ?

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