Can you say 'Slot Antenna'... <grin>

I think Lee Hill's presentation at PCB West on EMI/EMC demonstrated so well
the danger of split planes and crossing the split with high speed signals or
RF and the resulting harmonic EMI levels that spilled out all over the radio
frequency spectrum..

Seriously, placement is the key.... and never cross the split or better yet
have no split at all.


Bill Brooks


-----Original Message-----
From: Jack C. Olson [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [DC] Reference Planes for Impedance Controlled Signals

8MHz

Here's more info. We have a PowerPC processor BGA
that has many +5V and +2.6V pins. Instead of trying
to do a split plane, and having the impedance controlled
stuff possibly traveling over a split, I thought it was
better to have both a solid +5v plane and solid +2.6v
planes on different layers. But as soon as you do that,
you have some signals closer to one plane that the other,
and the question is will there be signal integrity issues
by using the +5v plane as a reference.

On the other hand, how do you guys create complicated
split planes and keep signals from crossing the split?
(Veribest/Mentor Expedition/Mentor BoardStationRE
router)

thanks,
Jack





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