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Good point Matthias,

I see more of this sort of comment than not. Many EE's and customers of
Design Services are coming to you, the PCB Design Professional, with the
expectation that you are the expert. They have questions and not answers. We
have evolved from what we were. Many PCB designers are getting certified,
and are also going back to school to get some more training. We are fast
moving into an age where the PCB design will be so specific and critical
that the board designers will need that 'engineering degree' to understand
the layout that they are doing. I see us getting more sophisticated as time
goes on... not less.
 IMHO, we need to be aware of the changes and adapt to them as we go on to
stay marketable. We need to become the experts on PCB Design.


Bill Brooks


-----Original Message-----
From: Matthias Mansfeld [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:04 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [DC] Core thickness/emissions

Might get a bit off-topic...
[...]
> In my viewpoint it is a waste of an engineer's time to be laying
> out boards. The engineer should be reviewing the layout but unless
> he is at the low end of the salary scale it is not cost effective
> for him to do layout.
[...]

You assume the circuit design engineer always knows what he does an
what he has to specify. Especially which freedoms or constraints for
bare board mfg and assembly.

I am engineer and PWB layout is my main business. Often I have to
tell the customer which stackup he needs or whether it doesn't
matter. Often it is totally up to me to make a ugly wired chaos
prototype which ran more or less well on the engineer's desk to an
EMI compliant, manufacturable product.

Regards
Matthias Mansfeld
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Matthias Mansfeld Elektronik
* Printed Circuit Board Design and Assembly
Am Langhoelzl 11, D-85540 Haar, GERMANY
Phone: +49-89-4620 0937, Fax: +49-89-4620 0938
E-Mail: [log in to unmask]
Internet: http://www.mansfeld-elektronik.de

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