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Bob,

What kind of pick and place machine are you using?

Bill

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   bbarr [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
        Sent:   Thursday, May 10, 2001 10:31 AM
        To:     [log in to unmask]
        Subject:        Re: [TN] Dumb question

        I have never had a problem not using local fiducials for 1.27mm and
1.0mm
        pitch BGAs. I have not yet done .8mm pitch BGAs, but I think I would
tend to
        want to use locals for them. Of course, the usual caveat applies,
you need
        to know the capability of your placement machine. I have not even
seen a
        compelling need for locals with .5mm pitch leaded devices. I
normally have
        the machine find three panel fiducials and go with that.


        Bob


        Robert Barr
        Manufacturing Engineering
        Formation, Inc.
        Voice: 856-234-5020 x3035
        Fax: 856-234-6679
        email: [log in to unmask]

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        From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Jason Gregory
        Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 9:00 AM
        To: [log in to unmask]
        Subject: [TN] Dumb question


        OK, guys, here's one.
        Why is it so important for local fiducials to be placed near
diagonal
        corners of BGA's. The keyword here is "SO". I've performed studies
in the
        past detailing the natural tendency of BGA's to self-align during
reflow.
        It's even lead to me to work on a patent concerning a BGA rework
preform.
        What I'm wondering is....ssop's, tssops, qfp's, etc. have greater
impact on
        placement quality when misplaced. And they do not self-align!!! I
do,
        however, understand that BGA's balls are not easily seen once placed
(you
        can only see the edges). But my point that I'm getting to
is.....wouldn't
        you want local fiducials more at the parts that will not
"self-correct"
        themselves during reflow than at the parts are more forgiving? Just
        wondering.


        Jason Gregory
        Software Specialist - NPI Group
        SCI Systems/Plant 2
        13000 S. Memorial Pkwy.
        Huntsville, AL. 35803
        (256) 882-4107 x3728
        [log in to unmask]


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