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Oh, one more thing, the board shop has to have experience with CIC voltage
and ground planes.
Thanks again,
Jim Marsico
Senior Engineer
Production Engineering
EDO Electronics Systems Group
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631-595-5879

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Marsico, James
        Sent:   Tuesday, January 15, 2002 7:55 AM
        To:     'TechNet E-Mail Forum.'
        Subject:        RE: [TN] VIAS PLATED CLOSED

        It seems like the consensus is not to use "plated shut" vias in my
design (thermal vias, if you recall), but to fill the vias with a thermally
conductive adhesive (CB10?) and copper plate over the top.  Now the
questions are, what other conductive adhesives are out there that can be
plated over, and which board shops can do this (low volume, class 3)?  I
know that ALL board shops CAN do everything, but I'm really interested in
those who HAVE done this with good success.

        Thanks again,
        Jim Marsico
        Senior Engineer
        Production Engineering
        EDO Electronics Systems Group
        [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
        631-595-5879

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Don Vischulis [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
                Sent:   Thursday, January 10, 2002 5:18 PM
                To:     [log in to unmask]
                Subject:        Re: [TN] VIAS PLATED CLOSED

                Jim

                IMO you should avoid true plated shut vias.  As holes plate
in an
                electrolytic process, the outer portion of the hole plates
faster than the
                portion of the barrel that is near the center of board (dog
bone plating).
                This can result in trapped chemicals in the barrel of the
hole.  As an
                alternative you might consider plugging the holes with a
conductive epoxy
                such as DuPont's CB100.  A .021 dia hole in a .062 thick
board is within the
                capability of several board shops.  You will most likely
find this
                capability with shops that build high reliability products.

                The holes are plugged before the final finish is applied,
and they should
                provide a flat final surface on the finished board.

                Don Vischulis

                -----Original Message-----
                From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Marsico,
James
                Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 3:55 PM
                To: [log in to unmask]
                Subject: [TN] VIAS PLATED CLOSED


                Good day technet:

                We're considering designing a multilayer polyimide PWB with
a number of vias
                (approximately .021" diameter holes, .062" thick PWB) that
are plated shut,
                for thermal reasons.  Can anyone comment on pitfalls
regarding the fab
                process?  How about voids in the solid copper via?
Entrapped plating
                solution?

                All comments are appreciated.  Thanks in advance...

                Jim Marsico
                Senior Engineer
                Production Engineering
                EDO Electronics Systems Group
                [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
                631-595-5879


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