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 Inge,
you are a stickler--as engineers we KNOW that nothing is PERFECT--but 1/3 litter of your favorite brewski on a hot afternoon comes damn close.

Werner



 


 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 3:59 pm
Subject: Re: [TN] European Union Council Directive 80/181/EEC (Metric Directive) - NTC
















you said perfect? Have to disappoint you. There is 
nothing such. If we get into such a world, we will all fade away. It's the 
imperfection that gives us energy. 


Inge 



  
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Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 9:39 
  PM

  
Subject: Re: [TN] European Union Council 
  Directive 80/181/EEC (Metric Directive) - NTC

  



  
Inge,
Some of what you say 
  is true in Sweden [Scandinavia], but not necessarily in the rest of Europe. 
  One reason my wife has trouble with my mother's recipes, is because they are 
  in dkg (=100 mg), not teaspoons.
But what really hurts is the beer 
  comment---33cl is a perfect 1/3 of a liter [not too much and not too little] 
  and is called a 'Seidl' in austria and parts of 
  Germany.

Werner


  



  


-----Original Message-----
From: Inge 
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Sent: Tue, 14 Apr 
  2009 2:19 pm
Subject: Re: [T
N] European Union Council Directive 80/181/EEC 
  (Metric Directive) - NTC


  
Noone 
  is perfect, not even in Europe. If I go to the timberyard to buy some boards, 
  let's say 10 meters of dimension 25x100 mm, they will just look at me as being 
  stupid. You see, THICKNESS is still in inches, but WIDTH in millimeters. So, I 
  must say 10 meters 1"x100 mm. If they are very modern, you may ask for 22 mm 
  or 28 mm, and then you get 25 mm, which is one inch. And nearly all builders 
  say 2 inch nails, 3 inch nails etc, but the length is in millimeters. And the 
  tire pressure ought to be kPa, but all say kg (kilogram). And we sin every day 
  by saying that the barometer shows 700 millimeters instead of Pa. And we say 
  that the wind speed is nn knots instead of m/s. And all millions of folding 
  rules we have here are named 'inch tools' and not meter tools. And the beer is 
  33 cl and not an even multiple of 1000 cl. And cooks use teaspoons and not 
  milligrams. And not one normal man dare say his BMW got nn kilowatts. And 
  textiles and an silts are name with mesh and not openings per centimeter. And 
  diamonds are valued in carat, which is a little nut. I could go on until you 
  fell asleep. 
 
Viva the 
  imperfection! 
 
Inge 
 
----- Original 
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Sent: 
20 Tuesday, April 14, 2009 7:00 PM 
Subject: Re: [TN] European Union 
  Council Directive 80/181/EEC (Metric Directive) - 
  NTC 
 
Remember, whether it's 9.8 m/sec2 or 32.2 ft/sec2, it's 
  still 1 G. 
 
Lee Whiteman, PMP 
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-----Original 
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joe 
  Fjelstad 
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 12:03=2 0PM 
To: [log in to unmask] 
Subject: Re: [TN] 
  European Union Council Directive 80/181/EEC (Metric Directive) - 
  NTC 
 
Steve 
 
Your note reminded me of one 
  the worst modifications made to the English 
system and that was the 
  decimal inch. This allowed users to think they had 
a metric system 
  equivalent and did not need to make the change, which was a 
BIG 
  mistake. 
 
Let go crash some more Mars explorers... 
  ;-) 
 
Cheers, 
Joe 
 
 
In a 
  message dated 4/14/2009 8:57:29 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
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  writes: 
 
Mike, 
 
As a similar aside, I have 
  had many 'knowledgeable' individuals verbally 
refer to a 'mm' 
  [millimeter] as a 'mil'.... ouch! 
 
Let me assure you, that 
  when bonding '1 mil' gold wire, I am referring to 
'0.001 inch'. 'One 
  mil' is20so much easier to say than 25.4 µm [or microns] 
....[yes, I 
  know all the arguments, but the real problem comes in when 
people do 
  not pay attention to labels. In the olden days of chalk 
  board 
and 
slate, we were taught to 'mind our labels' when it 
  came to math. Alas, 
ignorance is bliss.] 
 
Should 
  anyone have any 1 mm gold wire they wish to dispose of,20I 
  would 
gladly put it into my unemployment fund!! I would even spring 
  for 
shipping!! 
 
We'll get there 
  eventually. 
 
Steve 
 
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