or not to watch their coffee mug use A200?
>-----Original Message-----
>From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Ingemar Hernefjord
>(EMW)
>Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 2:53 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [TN] Cleaning Solvent for Military Product
>
>
>So thought we. I've told the guys not to add A200 in lunch coffee any more.
>Ingemar
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Crepeau, Phil [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: den 9 augusti 2002 02:09
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [TN] Cleaning Solvent for Military Product
>
>
>hi,
>
>zestron states specifically that vigon a200 is surfactant free,
>and that it is composed of long chain alcohols. environmentally
>friendly is another claim they make. no mention of saponifiers.
>
>phil
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Guy Ramsey [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 3:59 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [TN] Cleaning Solvent for Military Product
>
>
>Brain,
>I was shocked by this response. We have been using Vigon A200 here for a
>couple of years.
>The products HMIS rating is 0,0,0. We do not know of any special
>protection or training that is required. The cleaning agent seems easy
>and safe to use. The MSDS is pretty straight forward. We understand
>that the solvent contains VOCs, but are unaware of any issues associated
>with the waste streams. Granted, the contamination which can vary, but
>our understanding that the material is easily biodegradable.
>Additionally, Vigon A 200 was not presented to us as a saponifier but a
>chemistry which allows reuse.
>
>I would really appreciate knowing about the toxic character of the
>material, and any precautions that we should be using.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of b_ellis
>> Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 4:18 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [TN] Cleaning Solvent for Military Product
>>
>>
>> Ingemar
>>
>> Vigon A200 is an excellent saponifier, but, like all
>> saponifiers, requires caution in its use. It is very basic
>> and is quite toxic. Unlike most organic saponifiers, it does
>> not use MEA, but it does have an analogic amine, with more
>> carbon. Operator protection is a must. It is also a VOC. I
>> can recommend its use, but only in suitable equipment and
>> with correct operator protection and training.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> "Ingemar Hernefjord (EMW)" wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Doug and Poh,
>> > another good source is this : http://www.zestron.com/us/index.htm
>> > we use Vigon A200, waterbased, environment acceptable, for
>> military requirements, works rather well. But, as Doug says,
>> there is no do-it-all medium.
>> > regards
>> > Ingemar Hernefjord
>> > Ericsson Microwave Systems
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [log in to unmask]
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> > Sent: den 6 augusti 2002 14:30
>> > To: [log in to unmask]
>> > Subject: Re: [TN] Cleaning Solvent for Military Product
>> >
>> > Poh,
>> > It depends a great deal on what soils you are cleaning and what
>> > susceptibilities the substrate may have (e.g. susceptible
>> to water).
>> > In terms of alternatives to HCFCs there are
>> hydrofluoroethers (HFEs),
>> > hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs), and some aliphatic hydrocarbons.
>> I suggest
>> > that you talk to either Kyzen Corporation (www.kyzen.com)
>> or Petroferm
>> > (www.petroferm.com). They are the experts in cleaning chemistries
>> > available.
>> >
>> > Doug Pauls
>> > Rockwell Collins
>> >
>> > Poh Kong Hui <[log in to unmask]>@ipc.org> on 08/05/2002
>> 09:46:08 AM
>> >
>> > Please respond to "TechNet E-Mail Forum."
>> <[log in to unmask]>; Please respond
>> > to Poh Kong Hui <[log in to unmask]>
>> >
>> > Sent by: TechNet <[log in to unmask]>
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>> > To: [log in to unmask]
>> > cc:
>> >
>> > Subject: [TN] Cleaning Solvent for Military Product
>> >
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > I understand there are still many contractor for making Military
>> > product is still using HCFC. Some of the customer request
>> us to use,
>> > for example Genesolv 2004.
>> >
>> > I wander whether, what other solvents than HCFC can be and commonly
>> > used for cleaning Military board.
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > Poh
>> >
>> >
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