Jerry,
Jason is right on with the Mydata advice. It is ideally suited for your
situation. An in-line system may cause you problems, it has for us. We
have an in-line MY-15 with electrical component verification, which has
also been troublesome at times. Our machine has about 176 useable 8mm
feeder slots, after subtracting the slots for cameras and tray wagon, so
keep in mind the required size (feeder slots) of the machine for your
boards. The Mydata will let you replace a magazine with different parts
to complete an assembly, though not desirable at medium to high volumes.
Our machine was not necessarily "cheap", but you may find a bargain on the
used market. Also consider the cost of feeders, or magazines on the
Mydata, which run about $10,500 each for the 16 position 8mm.
You mentioned "don't break the bank", which is a common theme these days,
but consider buying something cheap and less than suited for your needs,
and you may end up paying for it every day you build product. The
unsuitable equipment may need frequent operator intervention, cause
excessive downtime, cause rework, etc. The previous I know from our Quad
experience, though they were 5+ years old. Find the right machine suited
for your needs and justify it. We recently set up a new SMT line with
Samsung CP-40's, and they work very well and are value priced. I hope
this helps a little. Good luck!
Howard Watson
Manufacturing Engineer
AMETEK/Dixson
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Jerry,
I was going to respond to your initial posting and actually recommend the
Mydata, but didn't want to cloud your investigation on the Quad. I am and
always will be a high defendant of Mydata PnP's. I have extensive
experience on TP-9's, TP-11's and TP-18's. I have no experience directly
with the new MY series. The Mydata's are very user and programmer-friendly
and their configuration can be easily manipulated to fit your needs. My
personal opinion and suggestion is, by all means, go for the Mydata, but
only for mid-to-high mix, low-to-medium volume. The split-gantry setup
cannot keep up with high volumes. They are very accurate and placement is
excellent. Also, I wouldn't suggest trying to inline it. It's better as a
stand-alone. I have experience on Zevatech's, Panasonic's, FUJI's,
Multitroniks (Europlacer, before the split), Contact's. I believe the
Mydata's to be superior in low volume arenas. Just my two cents.
Jason Gregory
Software Specialist - NPI Group
SCI Systems/Plant 2
13000 S. Memorial Pkwy.
Huntsville, AL. 35803
(256) 882-4107 x3728
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Many thanks to all who commented.
We now are realizing that we have to investigate each machine more
carefully
and not relay solely on sellers recommendations.
Said that, I would like to tap your fountain of knowledge again.
Given the need for short run, prototype geared assembly profile, what
would
be your recommendation for a Pick and Place machine?
Also what is your opinion of MYDATA equipment, highly popular in my Metro,
NY area.
Just don't break the bank, please.
Thanks in advance
Jerry
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