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Brian
Never been a coffee drinker, but  if I keep putting my foot in my mouth, I
have have to consider changing.  Isn't Cyprus coffee something you chew
more than drink?

Doug Pauls




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Hey, Doug. You had better change your tipple! If you come out here, we
can give you a coffee that will REALLY wake you up, 49% caffeine, 49%
flavour and the rest water! It's made in 3 varieties, glyko, metrio and
sketo, to suit all tastes. In most places it's only about 20 or 25 US
cents/cup. A good kick-start for the day and MUCH cheaper than Starbucks.

Best regards,

Brian

Douglas O. Pauls wrote:
> Good morning Werner,
> Brian's experiences always make for interesting reading.
>
> Maybe it is just from getting up way too early to take my daughter to
> volleyball practice, but your comment rubs me the wrong way this morning.
> I know that most IPC chairmen would love to increase participation from
all
> levels of companies and are looking for ways to do so.  The IPC staff
> diligently explores alternatives to costly travel to meetings so that
more
> can participate.  There have been increases in teleconferenes,
netmeetings,
> videoconferences.  More review is done by e-mail.  As a member from a
large
> company, we "dominate" because it is often we may have more resources, we
> may have made a better case for participation, or because or management
> sees the value in participation.
>
> In my view, participation is more limited by the fact that we are all
125%
> tasked (on a light day).  Is there anyone out there that has free time to
> devote anymore?
>
> People can be very active participants in any IPC activity, regardless of
> company size or travel budget.  In fact, all you in Technet land have
> participated in my committees when I ask survey questions.  I am the vice
> chair on the solder mask committee and the committee working on a solder
> mask handbook.  The Technet archives have been data mined (it is SO nice
to
> have intelligent co-ops students) for experiences on solder mask.
> Questions that get asked are topics that need to be covered.  All of the
> committee activities have home pages on the IPC web site.  Minutes from
> meetings, including suggestions from my favorite Canadian about hitting
> Hillman with a frozen beaver, drafts of documents, some of which contain
> Sven and Ole jokes, etc, are all there.
>
> ALL it takes, all it takes, to participate in an IPC committee (with a
few
> exceptions) is a phone call or an e-mail to one of the committee chairs
or
> to the IPC staff saying "I would like to be part of this work", and you
can
> do so.  You can review drafts, participate in research, etc, without ever
> once travel to a meeting.  You want to particpate, by God we will find a
> way to work you in.  Let me give you an example.  A young lady who was
once
> one of my co-op students, works for an EMS provider where travel funds
are
> a little scarce at times.  She may not be able to attend the meetings,
but
> she is willing to review drafts, participate in IC round robins, etc.
She
> recognizes the educational value in participating and how it will make
her
> a more valuable resource to her company.  Although, it could be just my
> sauve and debonair charm as a chairman (not a word, Whittaker).  Nah.
>
> I cannot begin to list how IPC involvement has made me valuable to my
> employers over the years.  It is an education in itself, and in todays
> world of electronic communication, the only real barriers to
participation
> are time to devote and individual initiative.
>
> You know, I will look over this response in about an hour or so, after a
> Diet Dew or two and wonder what the hell got me so riled up this
> morning......
>
> Doug Pauls
>
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> Hi Brian,
> You are so right.
> It needs to be added, that participation is also very costly with
meetings
> taking place all over the globe. This excludes small commpanies and
> consultants
> reinforcing what you said about domination by large companies.
>
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>
> Werner
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