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Hi,

I has been wondering that how can I know a magnifier's magnification without reading the numbers on the lens?  We have some old magnifiers that have not any number on them.  Does anybody have some neat way to verify the magnification?



Jiang Ping

  ----- Original Message ----- 

  From: Stephen R. Gregory 

  To: [log in to unmask] 

  Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 6:49 AM

  Subject: Re: [TN] Inspection Criteria





  Hi John!! 



  Like Kathy said, magnification for inspection is spelled out in the 610, and 

  the J-STD too...I would quote them, but I don't have them in front of me...I 

  do know 30X is pushing things a whole lot! 



  This issue is a never ending debate. Are your inspectors finding REAL 

  defects? I go through this stuff quite a bit too...so I understand your 

  frustrations. 



  An ol' crusty QA manager told me a while back, is that there are two kinds of 

  inspectors, those that inspect to accept, and those that inspect to reject. 

  He also said that if it takes more than just a couple of seconds to decide if 

  something is good or bad, it's probably good...leave it alone. 



  I go through this stuff all the time...especially with class-II stuff here. 

  The latest battle has been with barrel-fill. You're allowed a 75% barrel fill 

  with class-II stuff... 



  The inspectors complain that they can't tell if it's 74% or 76%, so they 

  reject everything that doesn't have a full barrel fill...(where's my 

  Excedrin?). In turn, this just conditions all our operators to touch-up 

  things that they don't need to touch-up...and it goes on and on, and on, and 

  on... 



  Have tried to talk to them about the issues when re-heating solder joints, 

  (intermetallics, and that it's NOT increasing the functionality or 

  reliability of the joints). 



  But it's like like I'm talking to a wall. Inspectors, as you have learned, 

  need to feel that they must find something...I've only met a few inspectors 

  that I can hand a board to, and get it back without red-arrows on it 

  somewhere...whether there is defects on it or not. That's their job (in their 

  mind), to find something wrong...if they can't find something wrong, then 

  they've missed something, and not done their job... 



  If it sounds like I'm getting down on inspectors, I'm really not. There's 

  been more than just a few times in my career that I was really glad that 

  there was a very detailed, picky, inspector, that caught a mistake from 

  production that was pretty serious before we shipped to the customer...stuff 

  happens. But on the other hand, there has been times that they've been so 

  focused on solder joints, that they've totally missed that there were 

  components installed, that were wrong values, wrong polarity, etc... 



  I'm not saying that you need a QA inspector to tell you when you load 

  something wrong, that responsibilty should fall squarely on the set-up and 

  first article inspection from the people that are running the line, but you 

  know what I'm driving at... 



  -Steve Gregory- 






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