Ok, you win, my drug history is kinda cloudy ;-)
We used to have a Coke bottling plant in my home town. they would park the
corn syrup cars in plane view. But I happened to drive around back and
spotted through the fence many empty drums with corrosive labels on them.
Must have been the phosphoric?
See ya, think I will stop at BK on the way home & have them blow some more
VOC in the air when they cook my burger. Then I will go home and place a
couple of old dead tv sets I have out on the curb for recycling......
All this Mil- Spec, drug free, ionic nutrasweet free in a vacuum package,
lead free, voc compliant stuff tied down w/ESD velcro straps is enough to
make me want to blow my brains out!!! Oh wait I know I have a 6 of Killians
in the fridge, I'll be ok now !!!
-----Original Message-----
From: David Ricketts [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 5:02 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Brominated Hydrocarbons and Mountain Dew (NTC-sort of)
It wasn't opium, it was coca, as in the source of cocaine. It is rumored
that they still use flavoring derived from the coca plant!
David
-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Charlie Pitarys
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 1:05 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Brominated Hydrocarbons and Mountain Dew (NTC-sort of)
And they thought the opium extract in COCA-COLA , way back in the "good ole
days" was bad!
[Charlie Pitarys]
From: Steve Gregory [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 12:25 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Brominated Hydrocarbons and Mountain Dew (NTC-sort of)
Hi Mike!
Found the information below about Brominated Vegetable Oil, it's keep the
other flavor oils from separating in your Dew...
-Steve Gregory-
Brominated Vegetable Oil For those who care about their body...
A little health information from ForEverWorld Books
<http://www.foreverworld.com/> . Today is a sad day in Erin's gaming life,
for I have come to realize that Mt. Dew is too questionable for my health. I
ran out to purchase the Code Red Mountain Dew, drank it, loved it and then
read the label. At the bottom were the ingredients Brominated Vegetable Oil.
Being curious, I checked it out on the web. Starting with Atomic/GuruNet, I
found that Brominated
<http://lookup.guru.net/guru/query?mail=1&cid=1859759322:m&cbid=0&lang=en&ui
d=00889473&pdid=&curtab=> means 'to combine a substance with bromine or a
bromine compound'. Then I looked up Bromine
<http://lookup.guru.net/guru/query?mail=1&cid=1876471256:m&cbid=0&lang=en&ui
d=00889473&pdid=&curtab=> . It's defined as:
A heavy, volatile, corrosive, reddish-brown, nonmetallic liquid element,
having a
highly irritating vapor. It is used in producing gasoline antiknock
mixtures, fumigants,
dyes, and photographic chemicals. Atomic weight 79.904; atomic number 35;
melting point 7.2°C; boiling point 58.78°C; valence 1, 3, 5, 7.
YUCK!! I thought that poisons at the gaming table were supposed to be a
fictional thing!So I checked out the FDA
<http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/get-cfr.cgi?TITLE=21&PART=180&SECTI
ON=30&TYPE=TEXT> pages, which state that BVO has been allowed in our foods
since 1977, but remains in the top 2000 toxicity additives and must be
re-examined every 6 months. The additive cannot exceed 15 parts per million
(just one ounce must be diluted into 520 gallons of Mountain Dew to stay
under the toxicity level - or 5546 (12) oz cans).
It is also illegal to put BVO in anything without declaring it first.
Coca-Cola found this out with a batch of Minute Maid Grape that had to be
recalled <http://www.safetyalerts.com/recall/f/00/118.htm> for not
declaring BVO on it's label.
Like PCBs, BVO leaves traces in the fat cells of your body. Nothing like
being dyed from the inside out with your favorite citric soda, eh? Yes,
unfortunately BVO is in many citric-based soft drinks besides Mt. Dew - it's
purpose is to make the flavoring oils the same density as water. This keeps
the flavor oil from separating in your soda.
But don't take my word for it. Check out the research for yourself on Google
<http://www.google.com/search?q=Brominated+Vegetable+Oil> or the FDA
homepage <http://www.fda.gov/default.htm> .
This posting has no relevance to circuit boards or assemblies, but given the
amount of discussion on this forum on the drive to eliminate brominated
flame retardants in PWB materials and the fondness of some regulars for the
Dew, I think it's relevant.
The other day, I noticed one of my co-workers drinking a liquid that was
unnaturally bright red. I queried him on exactly what this liquid was. He
replied Mountain Dew Code Red. This led to a discussion of what exactly was
Code Red. A scan of the ingredients revealed the expected red dye but
surprisingly, it also contained brominated vegetable oil. I immediately
asked why the makers of this product felt it necessary to add an apparent
flame retardant to their product. My co-worker (incidentally a chemist who
really should no better but claims that he somehow manages to
compartmentalize all this stuff) had no idea.
I just thought this whole thing is very ironic. Most of us work in an
industry that is spending millions of dollars trying to remove bromine from
one of the constituents while at the same time you have a "food" product to
which intentionally is added a brominated hydrocarbon. Does anybody know
what purpose the brominated vegetable oil serves? It also turns out the some
component is in regular Dew as well as diet red dew but not diet regular
Dew.
Now back to our regularly scheduled programming....
Mike McMaster
RF Product Engineer
Merix Corporation
503-992-4263
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