We had five roll to roll double sided flex lines in the AT&T facility in Richmond. We exited the flex business in the early eighties. The new designs coming out of AT&T no longer were compatible with flex. The roll to roll concept can be profitably used on high volume low technology product. For higher technology product you experience problems printing and plating not to mention distorting the material. In most cases, a panel flex line will have an economic advantage. Roll to roll flex will quickly produce one of two results a lot of product or a lot of scrap.
Best regards
Lee
J. L. Parker Ph. D.
JLP Consultants LLC
804 779 3389
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From: Robert Kondner<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [TN] Roll-to-Roll Research
Hi,
I was out at APEX last week and I saw the Roll to Roll stuff from a company
in the UK. I brought back a sample, see below. I was looking for 1 x 36 inch
PCBs once, this would do it.
The basic inkjet head which drives the process is a 70um head so keep that
in mind when designing track and space rules. Use increments of the basic
head.
Platting is thin, 30mOhm sheet resistance. . A 1 foot 10mil trace is 36
ohms.
Also, the process is VERY compatible with short runs and prototypes.
Neat Stuff.
Bob Kondner
1mm
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D.
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 9:23 AM
To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [TN] Roll-to-Roll Research
R-T-R processing is fast becoming one of the leading electronics
processes. PEN, Polyester, and Polyimide flex circuitry, even some
rigid-flex circuitry is being processed in a roll that runs continuously
through the production line. It requires special techniques and
knowledge, but provides tremendous cost-cutting advantages from a
process standpoint. Nearly all RFID and embedded chip-in-flex processes
utilize RTR processing.
-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Syed Ahmad
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 4:08 AM
To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [TN] Roll-to-Roll Research
Roll-to-Roll: Making systems on a continuously running roll of substrate
material, like web-printing of a newspaper, rather than individual
panels or
singulated PCBs. Obviously the substrate will need to be flexible, and
the
electronics and the interconnection will need to be tolerant of flexure.
The
roll will be singulated at the end of the process. A better definition
is
welcome.
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bev Christian
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 9:05 PM
To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [TN] Roll-to-Roll Research
I have no idea what you are talking about. Please elaborate.
I presume you are not talking about dinner rolls or jelly rolls or wire
rolls (closer?) Sorry couldn't resist.
Bev
RIM
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Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 12:17 PM
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Subject: [TN] Roll-to-Roll Research
Dear Tech-Netters,
Any references on roll-to-roll "research" consultants?
Thanks.
Syed Sajid Ahmad, Manager of Engineering Services
Center for Nanoscale Science and Engineering (CNSE)
North Dakota State University (NDSU)
1805 NDSU Research Park, Fargo ND 58102
Phone 701 231 5880 http://www.ndsu.edu/cnse/<http://www.ndsu.edu/cnse/>
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