Charles,
I was with you up until the fourth paragraph. However, turning entire
towns into toxic waste dumps under the guise of "recyclable goods" is not
acceptable anywhere, even in "big" countries such as China.
Unfortunately, there are two basic ways to recycle e-waste: a) properly
and b) cheaply.
Until we can come up with a way that is both, it would appear that our
governments will allow these goods to be shipped to third world countries
that are desperate for any means of income, despite the health risks. We
here in North America may feel good about "recycling" our e-waste, but
chances are extremely good our e-waste is indeed winding up in dumps.
Our governments offer little more than a feel-good option of disposing
of electronic goods. We may think we are doing a great thing by dropping
off our old computers etc, to a recycling depot, but legislation is such
that most of it gets shipped overseas to third world countries, where there
is no legislation outlining the manner with which the raw materials are
obtained.
But, as they say, ignorance is bliss.
Danielle
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From: Charles Dolci [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
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Ms. Wallstrom--
Pratap makes those absolutist statements intended to alarm but not educate:
But first I must ask if his indictment is only against "industry and US
businesses in general"? Does he believe that non-US businesses walk
with the angels?
Second, I will give him his point on cigarettes. But people have known
for several generations that cigarettes are unhealthy. Even in the 30's
and 40's people were calling them "coffin nails". Perhaps they just
didn't care.
NOBODY has ever said that Viox and Celebrex (or any drug, for that
matter) are safe for ALL people. Nothing is safe for all "people"; not
even peanut butter. But that is not the point. Are we to deny
medications to those that will benefit from them because some people are
harmed by them?
Again, no one ever said that DDT does NO harm to people, animals or
environments. But that is not the issue, the issue is one of balance.
The truth is that DDT is a lot less harmful to people, animals and the
environment than was originally thought when it was banned and it did a
lot of good in preventing malaria, which kills millions each year. The
overwhelming evidence is that a prudent amount of DDT will not harm
animals or the environment but will save millions of lives and much more
suffering.
The idea of industrial nations dumping hazardous waste into the third
world countries is a hoax. Some materials are being sent overseas in
very small numbers relative to the total waste created in industrial
nations; besides it is not WASTE it is recycleable materials. And most
of it is being handled in a very responsible manner despite what the
nincompoops at BAN say. The BAN article, which is the only support for
Pratap's assertion about "exporting waste", was, simply stated,
laughable.
By the way, last time I looked China was a pretty big country,
geographically. BUt as I said, the waste is not goinginto dumps, it is
being recycled.
Chuck Dolci
Pratap Singh wrote:
> Industry and US businesses in general have not been honest with the
> public at large when it comes to the harmful effects or severe side
> effects on living tissues of human body , let alone the effects on
> environment. Some examples:
>
> * Cigarettes are not addictive, do not cause lung cancer, even
> though internal data dictated otherwise.
> * VIOX and CELEBREX are safe for all patients.
> * DDT (For mosquito killing) does no harm to people, animals
> or environments.
> * Aluminum cables for electrical wiring is safe under all
> applications, including residences.
> * Fluorocarbon based solvents are OK and there is no impact on
> environment.
> * Many industrialized nations are dumping their waste into
> third world countries- WHY? so that their own water resources are not
> fouled by dangerous leachates coming from dumps.
>
> One can go on with many more examples, but it suffices to say that
> Industry has been less than honest when it comes to sharing information
> that has negative effect on their products and hence on their bottom
> line.
>
> Most of the countries are small when compared geographically to US and
> have to protect their dwindling resources from harmful effects of
> technological garbage being produced today. They do not have enough land
> for dumps and people to live on. PEACE brothers.
>
>
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