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The 5th generation iPod Nano used formed embedded passives.  I don't know
about other generations.

Regards, Joel

Joel S. Peiffer
3M Electronic Solutions Division
3M Center, Building 201-1E-21
St. Paul, MN  55144
Tel:  (651) 575-1464
Cell:  (612) 327-1983
Fax:  (651) 737-4601
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Dear All,

Is iPod Nano using embedded passives?

Best Rgds
Albert

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Hi Dan,

yes, embedded passives are a mainstream technology in numerous product
applications across a number of market segments.  Most of the people on
this listing probably touch at least one product with embedded passives in
nearly every day.

The issue with embedded passives is they are inside the board.  You can't
see them so people just assume they are not there.  The OEMs who utilize
these materials love it because it's their little secret.  They do not
advertise that they utilize it and product teardowns never go down to this
level of detail.  Thus, their competitors rarely find out what they are
doing.  The PCB fabs and material suppliers don't typically talk about
their embedded passive successes due to non-disclosure agreements and/or
fear of their competitors horning in on their business.

Joel

Joel S. Peiffer
3M Electronic Solutions Division
3M Center, Building 201-1E-21
St. Paul, MN  55144
Tel:  (651) 575-1464
Cell:  (612) 327-1983
Fax:  (651) 737-4601
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Dennis,

It's been interesting reading the email responses to the "What happened
to the boom?" question and I'm glad that from our colleagues in this
business are still in the game.

In our opinion, there was a boom but not the one we expected. Almost
every "smart phone" and many tablet computers have mems modules with
embedded resistance and capacitance. Yes, the amount of material used
per device is almost infinitesimal, but there are millions of devices
with these components, and we're optimistic about other applications.

Best regards,

Daniel Brandler
Ohmega Technologies, Inc.

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