The 5th generation iPod Nano used formed embedded passives. I don't know about other generations. Regards, Joel Joel S. Peiffer 3M Electronic Solutions Division 3M Center, Building 201-1E-21 St. Paul, MN 55144 Tel: (651) 575-1464 Cell: (612) 327-1983 Fax: (651) 737-4601 [log in to unmask] "Lu Chee Wai Albert Dr (SIMTech)" To <[log in to unmask] D-50 Embedded Devices Committee tar.edu.sg> Forum <[log in to unmask]> "[log in to unmask]" 02/07/2012 08:00 <[log in to unmask]> PM cc Subject Please respond to Re: [EM] Fw: MILAERO007: What "Lu Chee Wai Became of the Embedded Passive Albert Dr Boom? (SIMTech)" <[log in to unmask] tar.edu.sg> Dear All, Is iPod Nano using embedded passives? Best Rgds Albert -----Original Message----- From: Joel Peiffer <[log in to unmask]> Sender: EmbeddedNet <[log in to unmask]> Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 09:41:55 To: [log in to unmask]<[log in to unmask]> Reply-To: D-50 Embedded Devices Committee Forum <[log in to unmask]>, "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [EM] Fw: MILAERO007: What Became of the Embedded Passive Boom? Hi Dan, yes, embedded passives are a mainstream technology in numerous product applications across a number of market segments. Most of the people on this listing probably touch at least one product with embedded passives in nearly every day. The issue with embedded passives is they are inside the board. You can't see them so people just assume they are not there. The OEMs who utilize these materials love it because it's their little secret. They do not advertise that they utilize it and product teardowns never go down to this level of detail. Thus, their competitors rarely find out what they are doing. The PCB fabs and material suppliers don't typically talk about their embedded passive successes due to non-disclosure agreements and/or fear of their competitors horning in on their business. Joel Joel S. Peiffer 3M Electronic Solutions Division 3M Center, Building 201-1E-21 St. Paul, MN 55144 Tel: (651) 575-1464 Cell: (612) 327-1983 Fax: (651) 737-4601 [log in to unmask] Daniel Brandler <dbrandler@EARTHL INK.NET> To Sent by: <[log in to unmask]> EmbeddedNet cc <[log in to unmask] org> Subject Re: [EM] Fw: MILAERO007: What Became of the Embedded Passive 02/07/2012 07:12 Boom? PM Please respond to D-50 Embedded Devices Committee Forum <[log in to unmask] ORG>; Please respond to Daniel Brandler <dbrandler@EARTHL INK.NET> Dennis, It's been interesting reading the email responses to the "What happened to the boom?" question and I'm glad that from our colleagues in this business are still in the game. In our opinion, there was a boom but not the one we expected. Almost every "smart phone" and many tablet computers have mems modules with embedded resistance and capacitance. Yes, the amount of material used per device is almost infinitesimal, but there are millions of devices with these components, and we're optimistic about other applications. Best regards, Daniel Brandler Ohmega Technologies, Inc. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please contact helpdesk at x2960 or [log in to unmask] ______________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please contact helpdesk at x2960 or [log in to unmask] ______________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. For more information please contact helpdesk at x2960 or [log in to unmask] ______________________________________________________________________