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It's funny... I did many microwave circuits using AutoCAD in years gone by
for the very reason that there was not a good tool with the resolution or
capability to create the shapes and details required to do the layout...

Libra was the tool we used to simulate printed components and exported it to
dxf and then into AutoCAD to get the actual geometries into the layout...
The issues with not having a design rules checker were daunting, and having
to check everything by hand took some time but we got it done. Where there
is a will...etc.

Libra is made by Agilent EEsof EDA...

http://eesof.viewmark.com/

I seem to recall another AutoCAD based package called AutoBoard that used to
do digital design and netlisting etc... with an AutoCAD 'shell' program. And
I seem to recall an RF program based on AutoCad but I can't recall the name
of it anymore... it had libraries of RF circuits and was supposed to work
with Touchtone simulation tools to create them... but it has been awhile
since I had to deal with those issues as we use Protel for all out layout
needs here. No Microwave work is being done at this place, it's all HF and
VHF communications equipment bound by similar but different rules and
requirements.

Best regards,

Bill Brooks - KG6VVP
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D.+, C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
e-mail:[log in to unmask]
http://www.dtwc.com
http://pcbwizards.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Brand, Rodney [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 11:19 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [DC] RF design

I agree, being able to inter the correct numbers for sim's means you
understand what is going on.
We use one software for layout and another for simulation, each is a net
license version. I do not know of a software with the knowledge built
in.

-----Original Message-----
From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of JaMi
Smith
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 1:27 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [DC] RF design

Ed,

When it comes to doing an RF board design, it's not the software that
counts, it's
the person driving the software.

If you understand RF, you can use anything, but if you don't understand
RF, no
software will be able to help you.

JaMi


----- Original Message -----
From: "E.J. (Ed) Murphy CID President Ottawa IPC DC Chapter"
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Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 4:42 AM
Subject: [DC] RF design


> Hello everyone
>
> I was wondering if I could inquire of any RF board designers out there
as to
> what software tools do a better job of handling RF designs.  We are
probably
> looking at a mid range price tool... PADS, PCAD etc... but just wanted
to
> get an idea of what is the tool of choice.
>
> Thanx
>
> Ed Murphy
> 80 Russett Drive
> Arnprior ON K7S 3G8
> 613-623-7750
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