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Good one George... :)

It kind of reminds me of this guy I used to work with and when I would
discuss trying to fix the troubles with the world he would get this funny
look on his face and smile at me and say, "Just shut up Bill, and drink your
Gin..." and laugh... It seemed to fit somehow... (even though Gin would not
be my drink of choice... but the sentiment is appropriate I suppose... )

I would really like to get tickets to that Hockey Game...
:)


Bill Brooks - KG6VVP
PCB Design Engineer, C.I.D.+, C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
Datron World Communications, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: George Patrick [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 12:46 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [DC] Just say 'NO' to RoHS is plain wrong?

That's politicians for you.  They are the same everywhere.  As an example...

The Oregon state legislature has decided that all over-the-counter
medications containing pseudoephedrine can only be bought with a
prescription in order to make it harder to manufacture crystal meth.  Never
mind that the majority of meth is brought in from out-of-state, never mind
that they have numerous laws against manufacturing drugs already on the
books, never mind that jails are under-funded so they can't keep the drug
manufacturers incarcerated for more than a few weeks even if they DO manage
to convict them, passing this new law gets them free time on the evening
news to show their patsies... err... constituents that they are Doing
Something(c).

Bill, although I wish it were as easy as "just saying no," how long do you
think it's going to take Vermont, or Oregon, or California, or some other
green-leaning state to pass similar laws?  Right or wrong, politicians are
going to see this as a way to try to pry contributions out of the Sierra
Club or the Earth Conservancy, and pass their own version of RoHS.  We may
as well get used to it, it's going to happen and the chance of changing it
is about equal to the chance of having an all-day outdoor Ice Hockey
exhibition in Death Valley in August :)

--
George Patrick
Tektronix, Inc.
Central Engineering, PCB Design Group
P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512
Beaverton, OR 97077-0001
Phone: 503-627-5272         Fax: 503-627-5587
http://www.tektronix.com    http://www.pcb-designer.com

It's my opinion, not Tektronix'



-----Original Message-----
From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jack C.
Olson
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 11:22
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [DC] Just say 'NO' to RoHS is plain wrong?


Yes, 130 MILLION cell phones will be discarded this year.

I read that the owners of incinerators turned down the heat to save money,

and the waste was not being burned properly and spewing lead into the
environment.
and that's how this whole thing started.

I have no way to verify the truth of that,
but I thought it was interesting that they didn't simply REGULATE THE
INCINERATORS
rather than forbid the use of one of the more comment elements in the
universe!

seeya,
Jack

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