Ron, There is never any trouble getting components is there? Heck I have a ton of surplus A and B size tantalums (just kidding...in the middle of designing these suckers out of products). 1206, 1210, 2010, and 2512 will not go away any more than through hole parts have gone away, or will go away. The reason is power handling capability, and if you need 1/4w power rating, you need a 1206, unless you want to use 2 0805's and put them in parallel. 1206 pricing is 2.20 /k while 0805 is 1.50 /k roughly. 2 0805s vs. a 1206 will have a slight adder, and if you only have to do it one or two places, maybe it makes sense. It all depends on what your customer will allow. 2 0805's is equal to two parts possibly failing versus 1 1206 in the FMEA report so it all depends. Also, as hard as you might try, you can't run traces under 0402's! Mark Ross Project Engineer Donnelly Electronics -----Original Message----- From: Hollandsworth, Ron [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Monday, December 06, 1999 8:42 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TN] Subj: [TN] Obsolescence Risk Good Morning TechNet! I am looking for some opinions from you folks, who, like me, must keep up on technology now and in the future. Many are already using some of the newer technologies now in order to "get small". What are your prognostications concerning the future of 1206 and 0805 components versus that of the 0603, 0402, & I guess I will include 0201s? Do you think the cost chart lines for the two groups will cross each other in the near future? By that comment I am referring to the cost of 1206s and 0805s going up because of obsolescence/supply versus the cost of the second group starting to drop due to a new demand for higher quantities? Many are looking for smaller, lighter, faster, and less cost, yet with greater power and capability. Let's put a time frame of say 2000-2004. This is a lot for a Monday morning so watch for overloads. I had to hit the reset button a couple times already. If you want to throw some bonus info into the fracas like future of QFPs, SOT's, and the like versus micro-BGAs, etc., just go right ahead. This will have an affect and effect on designs for upcoming products and in some cases could affect the cost of existing designs. Some customers may not want to change size, shape, and functionality of their products, however, the OEM/Contractors, may have to make changes due to component availability. You all see where I am trying to go with this/these issues? Ron Hollandsworth ############################################################## TechNet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c ############################################################## To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the body: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TECHNET <your full name> To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TECHNET ############################################################## Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information. If you need assistance - contact Gayatri Sardeshpande at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5365 ############################################################## ############################################################## TechNet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c ############################################################## To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the body: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TECHNET <your full name> To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TECHNET ############################################################## Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information. If you need assistance - contact Gayatri Sardeshpande at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5365 ##############################################################