You're doing a damn good job making the change and becoming a damn good student. Your present company is in good company as you do them more good than they'll probably ever know. MoonMan ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen R. Gregory <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [TN] Two distinct layers of copper... > In a message dated 10/6/99 5:32:00 PM Central Daylight Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > > It sounds as if you could all do with a couple of weeks in a pcb > > manufacturing shop to understand how the boards you order are made > > > > Talk to your boss and suggest it, you may learn a lot > > > > Paul Brown > > Yeah Paul, you're right...I'm just a typical stupid user. This is the first > time I've been in a position that has had to actually deal with crappy boards > from a fab shop. At my past positions, all the work was consigned, not > turnkey as it now. Our customers supplied us the boards and we just assembled > them, if the board fell apart after they were built, it wasn't our problem. > > I was hired at my present position as a surface mount process engineer, but > find myself being pulled into the PCB procurement and recieving inspection > end of things because it seems I'm the only one trying to take the time out > find out why we've been getting stung so badly with the boards that we buy. > The problems that rear their ugly head only happen AFTER we've assembled many > boards. Presently, and in the past, the way boards are bought here is that we > get the gerbers and drawings from our customers, the buyers find a fab shop, > and if the price is right, we buy the boards. I'm not in purchasing, I don't > see the gerbers or drawings before they're sent out, I just see the boards > when all the material comes together and we get ready to build them. > > Yeah, you can call me a typical un-educated user, but I'm trying to change > that... > > -Steve Gregory- > > ############################################################## > TechNet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c > ############################################################## > To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in > the body: > To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TECHNET <your full name> > To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TECHNET > ############################################################## > Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional > information. > If you need assistance - contact Gayatri Sardeshpande at [log in to unmask] or > 847-509-9700 ext.5365 > ############################################################## ############################################################## TechNet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c ############################################################## To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the body: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TECHNET <your full name> To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TECHNET ############################################################## Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information. If you need assistance - contact Gayatri Sardeshpande at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5365 ##############################################################