It really blows me away when, in the many places I've worked, we have/had design reviews for DFM, there was never a PCB fab representative in the meetings. There were plenty of other people from all other areas, but concurrent engineering was not practiced and DFM was? Can't be done. There can be no concurrence without all major players involved. Of course, there are a few board suppliers either incapable of involvement/communication or are just willing to sit back and take what comes. Many, however, welcome the opportunity but are never asked. I don't understand how boards can be designed and assembled with such great thought, without including some extensive knowledge about how they are built. Earl Moon ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Brown <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 2:39 PM Subject: [TN] PCB Manufacturers > Well > > So far we have managed to obtain about 5 replies from PCB manufacturers out > of how may thousands worldwide > > Can anyone suggest a way of getting them involved ? > > Surely its about time that the people that use PCB,s( PWB,s) started talking > to the people that make them! > > I used to be a specialty chemical supplier to the PCB industry in the UK and > realized a long time ago that users of pcbs don't talk to the manufacturers, > they send them a design and that's it > The problem is users don't often understand the processes involved in > manufacture > > Any comments > > ############################################################## > TechNet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c > ############################################################## > To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in > the body: > To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TECHNET <your full name> > To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TECHNET > ############################################################## > Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional > information. > If you need assistance - contact Gayatri Sardeshpande at [log in to unmask] or > 847-509-9700 ext.5365 > ############################################################## ############################################################## TechNet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c ############################################################## To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the body: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TECHNET <your full name> To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TECHNET ############################################################## Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information. If you need assistance - contact Gayatri Sardeshpande at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5365 ##############################################################