Hey Joe, I work at the Celestica facility with a bunch of your old cronies. They told me to get hold of you some time. Give me a call at 720-6388. Great reply. Earl Moon ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Aronson <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [TN] Immersion Gold - How to specify? Gary, I do ENIG in Chippewa Falls, and Thickness is the only major specification. The planarity is not an issue. As far as thickness goes typical spec is 3-8 microinches of gold and 150-250 microinches of nickel. The gold simply needs to be thick enough to get a good oxidation free surface while the nickel thickness is more critical. While very thick nickel is costly both due to material expense and greatly reduced thoughput, thin nickel can be unreliable for several reasons, primarily due to the migration of copper through the nickel and up to the gold surface. The has been some debate over the reality of this occurrence - but I have seen it for myself and have elemental SEM results that support it. This usually occurs when you drop below 100 microinches of nickel. One other specification that I have seen that is not as common, is P-Weight in the nickel. Problem with that is that most fab shops don't have the capability to accurately analyze P-Weight. The general consensus is that you want to keep the phosphorus between 6 and 10 % in the nickel deposit however this is typical of nearly all of the ENIG processes available so it's not as useful a spec as the thickness. Hope this serves as some help to you. Regards Joe Aronson Wet Process Engineer Allied Signal Electronic Materials >>> Gary Crowell <[log in to unmask]> 09/02/99 10:38AM >>> We're doing our first board using high pincount BGA's, and I understand that we should be an immersion gold finish to get the flatness needed for BGA assembly. My question is, how do I specify this type of finish to the fab house? I assume thickness is one of the factors; what is typical and what are the considerations in thickness spec? What else needs to be specified? The board in question is 9x14", 18 layers, a prototype build on a board that will never see high volumes (about 100 units max lifetime production). Environment is laboratory, internal company use only. TIA Gary Crowell Micron Technology ############################################################## TechNet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c ############################################################## To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the body: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TECHNET <your full name> To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TECHNET ############################################################## Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information. If you need assistance - contact Gayatri Sardeshpande at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5365 ############################################################## ############################################################## TechNet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c ############################################################## To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the body: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TECHNET <your full name> To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TECHNET ############################################################## Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information. If you need assistance - contact Gayatri Sardeshpande at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5365 ############################################################## ############################################################## TechNet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c ############################################################## To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the body: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TECHNET <your full name> To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TECHNET ############################################################## Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information. If you need assistance - contact Gayatri Sardeshpande at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5365 ##############################################################