I completely agree with Patty, a board with these design rules should be a no-brainer for any competent shop. Susan, if you want to give your supplier a temporary method of culling bad boards while they solve their process problems, consider electrical test. I've never done this on a double-sided board, since the flaws are usually caught on visual inspection, but in this case, it could buy your supplier a little bit of time to solve their problem. If they can't tell you what went wrong and how they fixed it pretty soon, I'd change ships (or shops). Seth Goodman Goodman Associates 7687 Leta Way Verona, WI 53593-8631 Tel (608)833-9933 Fax (608)833-9966 ############################################################## TechNet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c ############################################################## To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the body: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TECHNET <your full name> To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TECHNET ############################################################## Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information. If you need assistance - contact Gayatri Sardeshpande at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.5365 ##############################################################