We will follow your discussionl, because we have had some trouble that may be related to ceramic chip capacitors. In our case it's believed to have some connection with mechanical stress during soldering and also in connection with tempcycling. As all know these creeps have a number of properties like all ceramic material, which can cause microphony, can cause electrical discharges and similar phenomenons. The specialists talk in terms of Intrinsic breakdown, Thermal breakdown, Ionization breakdown, Electromechanical breakdown, Piezoelectrical and Ferroelectrical discharges and a lot more stuff that call for both one and two doctors in Physics for discussion. Yves Ousten and his lab in Bordeaux is probably fitted for advanced analysis and measurements in terms of what is said above. We have scanned the whole globe for the best capacitors and by that way we have avoided some of the failures but, to be honest, we don't know exactly why we made progression! If some of the random failures keep going on, we will consult Yves Ousten for sure. Of course, the ceramic chip cap makers themselves must have deep knowledge, and we have had delegations here from AVX, Kemet etc, but Ousten's lab seems to work independently which can sometimes be beneficial. Yve's adress is : [log in to unmask] /Ingemar > Phil Hennigan > 904-739-4116 (voice) > 904-739-4200 (fax) > [log in to unmask] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phil Hennigan - Jacksonville > Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 11:07 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: RE: [TN] Chip Capacitors > > C1812C334K5RAC / C1812C105K5RAC PART FAILURES > > Please put me in contact with someone who can > discuss possible mechanical failures of the above listed Kemet capacitors. > We have had several electrical failures with the above parts and think it > could be due to physical stress on the parts. Please contact me if you have > any data on this possible problem with the 1812 package. > > [log in to unmask] > > Spoke with Jim Beaumont at Kemet in Orlando this AM. > He's working on getting us further info on these failure modes. > > > > We have had trouble with the above parts but have no > idea as to what our problem is at this time. They are supposed to get back > with us. We would be interested to know if others have had problems with > these footprint sizes (1812). > > thanks > > Phil Hennigan > 904-739-4116 (voice) > 904-739-4200 (fax) > [log in to unmask] > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Edward Hare, > [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] [log in to unmask]]> > Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 10:16 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: [TN] Chip Capacitors > > Hi all, > > I would like to hear from anyone who can > estimate their manufacturing > yield impact due to failure of chip > capacitors, i.e. due to cracks, > leakage, etc. I have been doing failure > analysis on these types of part > issues and I am trying to benchmark expected > yield and/or failure rates > under "normal" conditions. > > Any help would be sincerely appreciated! > > Best Regards, > Ed Hare > -- > > SEM Lab, Inc. > Scanning Electron Microscopy and Failure > Analysis > Snohomish, WA > (425)335-4400 > http://www.sem-lab.com > > > > ############################################################## > TechNet Mail List provided as a free service > by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c > > ############################################################## > To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to > [log in to unmask] with following text in > the body: > To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TECHNET name> > To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TECHNET > > ############################################################## > Please visit IPC web site > (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm ) for > additional > information. > If you need assistance - contact Gayatri > Sardeshpande at [log in to unmask] or > 847-509-9700 ext.5365 > > ############################################################## > > ############################################################## > TechNet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c > ############################################################## > To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text > in > the body: > To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TECHNET > To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TECHNET > ############################################################## > Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional > information. > If you need assistance - contact Gayatri Sardeshpande at [log in to unmask] or > 847-509-9700 ext.5365 > ############################################################## > ############################################################## TechNet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c ############################################################## To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the body: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TECHNET To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TECHNET ############################################################## Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information. 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