Pat, If the "contaminants" are on the surface, they should be easily rinsed off with IPA prior to inspection. We often do this to prevent needless inspection rejections. Besides, I don't believe surface contamination is a legitimate rejection criteria for the coating material - maybe for the assembly, but not of the coating itself. If, on the other hand the contamination is within the coating, check the cleanliness of the bulk material. We filter a lot of our coating material first, before mixing. -----Original Message----- From: Pat Lujan [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 6:06 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] Uralane 5750 Hans and Technetters, Definitely not performing this in a clean room; however we have hepa filtration. We have recently aquired a laminar air flow work station where I have been air curing the boards prior to an oven cure. I have even gone through the additional expense of purchasing new ovens with modifications to filter the incoming air into the oven. Another form of contamination which I forgot to mention in my previous e-mail is a snowflake, dandruff looking type of crystallization. After talking to vendor (Ciba Specialtly Chemicals) I am suspecting that this is coming from moisture. Part A of Uralane 5750 is hygroscopic and this may be the source. Thanks for any comments in advance. Pat >>> Hinners Hans CIV WRALC/LYPME <[log in to unmask]> 08/12 3:20 PM >>> Hey Pat, I don't know Uralane but are you doing this in a Cleanroom environment? If so what Class and flow type? Have you tried letting the boards cure in a cleanhood or something? Hans Air Force Material Command - We keep them flying! ~~~~~~~~ Hans M. Hinners WR-ALC/LYPME Bldg. 640 Materials Engineer 380 Second Street, Suite 104 Manufacturing Eng. Sec. Robins AFB GA 31098-1638 912-926-1970 (Voice) 468 - 1970 (DSN) 912-926-7974 (Fax) [log in to unmask] > I need help with a problem I have been fighting for 6 months. We > currently use Uralane 5750 on hi-rel PWA's used in space applications. > Our method of applying is the brush method per NHB5300.4(3J) April 85. > > The quality requirements state that "Coating shall be free from > contamination or foreign material. Any contaminant visible under 4- to > 10- power magnification shall be cause for rejection." > > My problem seems to be the properties of Uralane 5750. It seems to remain > tacky after it is cured and this appears to attract all airborne > particles. Our CSI and GSI inspectors naturally crank up the scopes to > 10 power. I used Humiseal 1B31 in the same environment and do not have > the same problems. > > My main customers Boeing and TRW have both issued CAR's against this > process as it realates to contamination. I am in need of any input that > may help me improve my process. I am a NASA certified Instructor in > Conformal Coating and Staking and have not been able to solve this > problem. > > Any information that would aid me in continuing my career would be greatly > appreciated. > > Pat Lujan > Senior Mfg. 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