Hi, all 1577 brains (most of them in UK?). What a noise this will cause, and hopefully one or two answers will bang into my briefcase. Now, we bond 100um Al on Cu/Ni/Pd/Au or on Cu/Ni/Au. Different bath suppliers, different makers. Different schools. Some say 10-12% P will cause a too hard Nickel, and there will be problems, bond lifts, which we also get. Delvotec (bond machine maker, good one)make all their ref. bonding on galvanic nickelplated aluminium plates, and it works fine. So, electrolytic and pure Nickel is wanted, but the board suppliers don't love that, because they have to connect every single bond pad on the FR4 board, on which the rest of pads are made for ordinary SMT soldering. Anyone who has autobonded on chemnickel (plus Pd/Au or only Au)? And are you then satisfied? Ingemar Hernefjord Ericsson Microwave Systems ################################################################ TechNet E-Mail Forum provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c ################################################################ To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the body: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TechNet To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TechNet ################################################################ Please visit IPC's web site (http://www.ipc.org) "On-Line Services" section for additional information. For technical support contact Hugo Scaramuzza at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.312 ################################################################