As far as I'm aware we're allowed to just pump our fumes straight out, here in 'clean, green' New Zealand. Mind you, the NZ goverment banned all leaded fuel here a couple of years back, so I guess it's only a matter of time before Australian enviromental laws spill over here. I think we'll be looking at filtration for our exhaust stacks real soon... Justin Braime Process Engineer - Compuspec Industries -----Original Message----- From: Paul Klasek <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> Date: Tuesday, March 16, 1999 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [TN] Solder Fumes >100 Ton's per year !?! ; far out ; looks like IBM itself is exempt ! >"Small guys" processing less than 100 000 kg's (are we on metric tone ? ; >close anyhow ?) of solder per year ! >Well , have to admit, I don't fit to jap cars (height 'm talkin bout here, >ok ?) ; >so I'm really trying to comprehend the scope of your "exhaustive" answer , >if yo' know what I mean . >Somehow my flabbergastation is gettin' worst still ! > >See you paul > >PS >Nothing taken literally buddy ; going to hit the beach at sunset ; to ponder >over life in LA . >Being on top of food chain accumulations 's got lesser risks here by the >feel of it ; >apart from steroids from beef and antibiotics disfunctions from poultry . >But : as Patrick said ; fallin' accidentally the Empire Building, passin' >each window : >"So far so good" > >> ---------- >> From: Stephen R. Gregory[SMTP:[log in to unmask]] >> Sent: Tuesday, 16 March 1999 5:16 >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: [TN] Solder Fumes >> >> In a message dated 3/15/99 8:37:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, >> [log in to unmask] writes: >> >> << Hi Todd&Russ&Steve&Bev >> >> Just a point when you've raised the 6 month screening (quite right) : Few >> HR >> dept.s have the foresight of screening NEWCOMERS ; and occasionally get >> company into serious poo when a fellow tramping for decades over silicon >> valley with all of the chimneys for pigeon eradicating programs ; (I don't >> believe my eyes here as I read all of this ;you guys have it way too easy >> over >> there ; we have to have by law [not every buddy 's "aware" of it , >> regional to >> councils as well] three stage filter [pre, HEPA , and carbon to humanize >> bad >> breath of wave maintenance guys ; able to discharge, optionally ; air back >> to >> room] ; finally gets overdosed ! And there goes this >six sigma< fellow in >> crime "personally" preferring holes {which I'd understood} ; but in roof >> !!! ; >> no wonder I get all stuffy trotting seminars round LA !!! >> You guys work like middle aged England's industrial revolution : Stuff the >> pigeons (literally) ; here comes the progress . I understand theyr's >> etching >> on your prized 3pack duco and shitting down Acropolis is not quite that >> nice ; >> still ; I'm flabbergasted . >> >> paul>> >> >> Hi ya Paul! >> >> Flabbergasted are ya? Ya' shouldn't be...things aren't quite so bad >> as >> the picture you're painting of us...while there's room for improvement to >> be >> sure (don't get me started on MTBE's, California's way of dealing with the >> pollution of auto exhaust) we're not quite back in the middle ages. A lot >> of >> the things I was saying was meant quite "tongue in cheek" and not be taken >> literally. >> >> Here in the San Fransisco Bay Area we have a quite strict organanization >> called the Bay Area Air Quality Management District under which all of us >> printed circuit businesses answer to, and those that have dealt with >> BAAQMD >> know what I'm talking about when I say strict.... >> >> The following is from Regulation 11 (Hazardous Pollutants) >> Rule 15 (Airborn Toxic Control Measure For Emissions of Toxic Metals From >> Non- >> Ferrous Metal Melting) >> >> The first part (a) goes through all the definitions, then it gets into the >> regulation: >> >> (b) Requirements: No person shall operate a non-ferrous metal melting >> furnace >> unless the facility is in compliance with all the requirements specified >> in >> subsections B1 through B3. >> >> The section that really applies to guys like us is: >> >> (B3) Fugitive Emission Control >> >> (a) No activity associated with metal melting at a facilty >> including furnace >> operation, casting, emission control system operation, and the storage, >> handling, transfer of any materials (except new sand) shall discharge into >> the >> air any air contaminate, other than uncombined water vapor, for a period >> aggregating more than three minutes in any hour which is: >> (i) Half as dark or darker in shade as that designated as >> number 1 on the >> Ringlemann Chart, as published by the United States Bureau >> of Mines, or >> (ii) Of such opacity as to obscure an observer's view to a >> degree equal to >> or greater than smoke as described in subsection B3, A(i) or >> 10% opacity. >> >> (b) Dust-forming material including, but not limited to, dross, >> ash, or feed >> material shall be stored in an enclosed storage area or stored in a >> manner >> which meets the requirements of subsection B3 (a). >> >> (c) Material collected by a particulate matter control system >> shall be >> discharged into closed containers or an enclosed system that is >> completely >> sealed to prevent any dust from getting out. >> >> (d) Surfaces that are subjected to vehicular or foot traffic shall >> be >> vacuumed, wet mpped, or otherwise maintained in accordance with a >> District- >> approved maintenance plan. The plan shall specify, at a minimum: the areas >> to >> be cleaned, the method to be used, the required frequency of the >> cleaning >> activities, and a method of documenting the completion of the required >> activities. The plan shall be designed and carried out in a way which >> will >> meet the requirements of B3 (a) >> >> (C) Exemptions >> >> 1) Small Quantity Exemptions. >> >> Facilities are exempt from subsections B1, B2, and B3 if they meet >> either of >> the following conditions: >> >> (a) Melt a total of no more than one ton per year of all >> metals, or >> (b) Melt no more than the listed quantities of any one of >> the specific >> metals listed in table 1. >> >> >> TABLE 1 >> >> METAL >> EXEMPTION LIMIT (Tons per year) >> >> Pure Lead >> 400 >> Hard Lead >> 200 >> Aluminum Scrap >> 125 >> Aluminum Ingot containing more >> 125 >> than .004% cadmium or .002% >> arsenic >> Solder >> 100 >> Zinc Scrap >> 30 >> Copper or Copper based alloys 30 >> containing more than .004% cadmium >> 0r .002% arsenic >> Type Metal (lead for linotype machines) 25 >> >> So as you can see, by following the regulations there's a lot of us small >> guys >> exempt. Sorry things are so tough for you down under. I'm no environmental >> engineer, but do you really think all the regulations that you have to >> deal >> with are really necessary? >> >> I'm not going to try and debate that lead isn't a toxic compound, and if >> it >> were a perfect world there shouldn't be anything harmful to us humans >> anywhere, but sometimes regulations can be "overkill", just as I'm sure >> regulations can be ineffective sometimes. I'm just asking the questions of >> what is really prudent and neccesary? >> >> As far as you always being stuffed up down in LA, I'm pretty sure you can >> blame that on the weather patterns, the geography of the LA Basin, and >> cars. >> Not my reflow and wave exhaust...I wouldn't do that to ya' pardner! >> >> -Steve Gregory- >> >> ################################################################ >> TechNet E-Mail Forum provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c >> ################################################################ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with >> following text in the body: >> To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TechNet <your full name> >> To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TechNet >> ################################################################ >> Please visit IPC's web site (http://www.ipc.org) "On-Line Services" >> section for additional information. >> For technical support contact Hugo Scaramuzza at [log in to unmask] or >> 847-509-9700 ext.312 >> ################################################################ >> > >################################################################ >TechNet E-Mail Forum provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c >################################################################ >To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the body: >To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TechNet <your full name> >To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TechNet >################################################################ >Please visit IPC's web site (http://www.ipc.org) "On-Line Services" section for additional information. >For technical support contact Hugo Scaramuzza at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.312 >################################################################ > > ################################################################ TechNet E-Mail Forum provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c ################################################################ To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the body: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TechNet <your full name> To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TechNet ################################################################ Please visit IPC's web site (http://www.ipc.org) "On-Line Services" section for additional information. 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