Thank you everyone for the help... It's interesting what you have to go through when you hear just one comment that runs contrary to your understanding on a subject. Paul, I finally stumbled across your data in the archive (11Mar98 13:26:09) along with many others. thanks again. Now I feel like an expert, probably the most dangerous feeling you can have in this business, eh? Hope I can return the favor sometime, Jack -----Original Message----- From: Paul Klasek [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Hi Jack I would not blame Hugo if he'd zap all of that gibberish I've send through or is hypothetically sitting in IPC archives for the generations to cherish ; but IF it's there; I did answer this one few times... <snip> ################################################################ TechNet E-Mail Forum provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c ################################################################ To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the body: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TechNet <your full name> To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TechNet ################################################################ Please visit IPC's web site (http://www.ipc.org) "On-Line Services" section for additional information. For technical support contact Hugo Scaramuzza at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.312 ################################################################