Hi Bill what's this "almost 2000" ? ; very subtle ; poor 2KY man will never live this one down . yes; have recently done so; spend US $ 170K or so on the UPT (United Technology Products) carpet for machinery area = SMT room ; David is right ; the silence , comfort ; retackable tiles facilitating damage exchange ; etc. is a dream ; unfortunately despite having reasonable VP , he was not game enough to lay the whole area of some 5Km/2 with it ; it's still to "new ; unusual ; unproven ; etc. ) so the rest went with TORO/ = Dathwyler/Sommer/Tarket ; or whoever took over who (most annoying this takeovers) carbon fused and backed vinyl on conductive glue with copper foil strip grid . Before we got in to the new place our ever consciencious brother cleaner started to polish it with clear compound ; superbly shiny ; however properly insulating any dissipative properties thus nulling the effect to sub zero ! Did not have the heart (surprised myself with that chest discovery) to scream ; just resignedly requested strip out of his diligent work ; and left out non critical areas . As you'd likely know ; the conductive floor may be a killer (unless you work in fireworks or ammo shops [seen interesting ones = a lot of shacks separated by hills of gravel > when one goes the shock wave does not sweep the rest ]) ; therefore after researching all of the BS's ; DIN's and EFD's I opted for the later as FDA inspectors like something they've seen and understood . Therefore bearing in mind your request for absence of major literally pieces (hope the 2KY man won't bite) ; one thing (for it's clarity) I'd recommend : get your little hot hands on the latest ESD Association's CD ; read through it ; and simply go with it . GET YOURSELF ABSOLUTELY CLEAR ON THE IMPEDANCES AND GROUNDS ; IT IS A PRIME SAFETY ISSUE . No point point in terms of "conductive or antistatic" ; the regulatory set standards are quite specific ( and legaly bounding, especially in your court obsessed homeland ) . The euros as usual have tendencies to be more complex for no reason ; the ionisers (apart from 90% in burn wards - kills airborne germs [Austria] and 30% in production ; increased efficiencies - "mountain air" negative ions of oxygen bounds better with positive hemoglobin cells [Israel; Russia]); for the common dust grounding effect (thats what the carpet does so well) may not interest you ; just bout it ? When you do costing DO point out the massive maintenance savings (vinyl needs just soap wash weekly > the plasticiser within raises to surface to be dry polished once a year ; the carpet is better still ; just let loose you your robovac overnight ) Let me know if need more major piece . See you Bill Paul Klasek http://www.resmed.com > ---------- > From: Kasprzak, Bill (esd) US[SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Saturday, 13 March 1999 7:52 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [TN] : Flooring, Conductive or Anti-Static > > 'Netters --- > > I'd like to ask the 1,780 or so (almost 2000) members of the tech net > community the following question .... > > If you were moving into new area or location, or have recently done so, or > wish that you could ..... > > What kind of flooring would you install, "Conductive or Antistatic" ? I'd > like to get this answer along with a brief explanation as to why or why > not. > (Maybe the answer is neither, I need to have you eleborate why you think > neither is any good.) Please, don't write major literary pieces here, I do > not want you spend a lot of time on this. > > Recommendations accepted ! Our shop floor is being moved to a new location > in the building, I have such an opportunity. > > All and any responses as always are greatly appreciated ! > > Bill Kasprzak > Moog Inc. > > ################################################################ > TechNet E-Mail Forum provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c > ################################################################ > To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with > following text in the body: > To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TechNet <your full name> > To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TechNet > ################################################################ > Please visit IPC's web site (http://www.ipc.org) "On-Line Services" > section for additional information. > For technical support contact Hugo Scaramuzza at [log in to unmask] or > 847-509-9700 ext.312 > ################################################################ > ################################################################ TechNet E-Mail Forum provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c ################################################################ To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the body: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TechNet <your full name> To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TechNet ################################################################ Please visit IPC's web site (http://www.ipc.org) "On-Line Services" section for additional information. 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