I know ChartPak & I think ByBuck? are a couple besides Bishop but those are the only two I remember. & Leroy uses ink to deploy its patterns. Robert M. Wolfe Supervisor PCB Design Executone Information Systems, Inc. 478 Wheelers Farms Road Milford, CT 06460 [log in to unmask] ph 203-882-6405_fax 203-882-2727 ################################################################ DesignerCouncil E-Mail Forum provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c ################################################################ To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the body: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE DesignerCouncil <your full name> To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF DesignerCouncil ################################################################ Please visit IPC's web site (http://www.ipc.org) "On-Line Services" section for additional information. For technical support contact Hugo Scaramuzza at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.312 ################################################################