Jeff, Speaking of GDT, where are you/we with it now in the PCB industry? How's IPC doing with its training program? I am especially interested concerning ANSI Y 14.5M and its concurrent engineering (CE) methodology. Any imput is appreciated. Thanks, Earl Moon ################################################################ TechNet E-Mail Forum provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c ################################################################ To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the body: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TechNet <your full name> To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TechNet ################################################################ Please visit IPC's web site (http://www.ipc.org) "On-Line Services" section for additional information. For technical support contact Hugo Scaramuzza at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.312 ################################################################