Hi, You should try being overseas, no chance of getting the magazine at all is th eofficial line. It was distributed in the UK for about a year, some 5/6 years ago when I was living there. Rgds., Oliver. Oliver Reddaway | Principal PCB Designer | [log in to unmask] Canon Information Systems Research Australia Pty Ltd | Phone +61-(0)2-9805-2933 PO Box 313, 1 Thomas Holt Drive, | Fax +61-(0)2-9805-2929 NORTH RYDE, NSW, 2113, AUSTRALIA | Mobile +61-(0)414-991318 ################################################################ DesignerCouncil E-Mail Forum provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c ################################################################ To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the body: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE DesignerCouncil <your full name> To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF DesignerCouncil ################################################################ Please visit IPC's web site (http://www.ipc.org) "On-Line Services" section for additional information. For technical support contact Hugo Scaramuzza at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.312 ################################################################