From: [log in to unmask] Return-path: <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [TN] intrusive reflow and all Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:32:53 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Brian - Oh, lighten up already. To answer you technical question, for those parts that exceed the weight to surface area ratio, most people use adhesives. Of course this entails additional machine centers (glue dispensor) and operations (adhesive dispensing and curing). Some components can't be glued like BGAs, so don't design them for both sides (this is called DFM). Of course, you can differentiate solder them - they're your substrates. I never said that you couldn't but for processes I consult on, this would be a last resort in most applications. When I, or my fellow consultants (Werner Englemeir, Bob Willis, et al) give advice, and we sign our names and our consulting firms, yes, it is a mention, but it is not an advertisement. We make our livings selling advice - we do not get salaries from companies we work for, so these are contributions of our knowledge. We might list our websites (which contain articles - also free of charge and usually pertinent to the discussion) or address, and many times we are contacted "off-line" for additional information. You can agree or disagree with our thoughts and experience. When other people like Bev, Eddie, Charles and all give advice, and sign the names of their companies, it is a credit to their companies that they are who they are. I think you would do much better to do the same and quit blatantly plugging your product by name and model. If you want to advertise, buy advertising space in the trade magazines like the real reflow oven manufacturers do. And that is my final word regarding this mildly entertaining "dialogue" we've engaged in for the last day or so. Oh, except for : "pfffffffffft!" Hey all, have a nice weekend. Toodles, Phil Zarrow ITM Inc. Durham, NH www.itm-smt.com Mastercharge and Visa Accepted ! (hee hee)