JoAnn, Mr. Chee did not state the tech. reports to the prod. sup. In a typical mfg company, maintenance tech's normally report to a engineering dept. and operators/assemblers to a production supverisor/manager. If this is not the case as you assume to be not, then you are right. The tech. ought to work it out with her. You don't have to translate "giving a rose to a lady..." word by word. Where's a sensor of humor ( or should I say an appropriate manner?) for this??? I resent "unprofessionalism" mentioned here. One form of unprofessinalism is improper manners presented by a male when arguing with a woman. That I believe it should be different when arguing with a male. If the tech's boss is a male, he should battle it out. As fas as I can see, the tech is 90% right. regards Matthew NII >>> JoAnn Amerson <[log in to unmask]> February 16, 1998 3:38 am >>> > Mr. Chee > > Please advice the tech. to present a rose to the prod. supervisor. > It is not a good idea to argue with a lady in a work place. Men > usually lose out at the end regardless of who wins. This doesn't > mean she is right. Tell the tech. ( when you are alone with him) > keep the preheat temp at 120'c and leave the sensor on (or > increase the sensor on time to prevent some miss-outs) Matthew, I can't answer Mr. Chee's question but I can you that women don't like being "placated". She is his supervisor, regardless of either person's gender. Presenting her with a rose does not help. It is very unprofessional. Would the tech do the same if his supervisor was a male? It's best to forget about gender and try to keep in mind that a supervisor is a supervisor. Period. And it's NEVER a good idea to go behind the boss' back and do something contrary to their instructions without first notifying them. Unless you don't need a steady paycheck. JoAnn L. Amerson Design Librarian Red Lion Controls, Inc. E-mail: [log in to unmask] Voice: (717) 767-6961 ext 6308 ################################################################ TechNet E-Mail Forum provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c ################################################################ To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the body: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TechNet <your full name> To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TechNet ################################################################ Please visit IPC web site (http://jefry.ipc.org/forum.htm) for additional information. For the technical support contact Dmitriy Sklyar at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.311 ################################################################ ################################################################ TechNet E-Mail Forum provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c ################################################################ To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the body: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TechNet <your full name> To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TechNet ################################################################ Please visit IPC web site (http://jefry.ipc.org/forum.htm) for additional information. For the technical support contact Dmitriy Sklyar at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.311 ################################################################