Gary (and Scott), This only gives you a netlist that has been derived from the gerber data, not really what you want. If you extract the IPC-D-356 Netlist from the CAM tool, then how do you know what you designed on your Host CAD system, is what you got when you went through the gerber extraction process? I think it would be better to extract a IPC-D-356 Netlist from your host CAD system then read it into the CAM tool, have the CAM tool derive a netlist, then compare the two netlist. This insures that the netlist on your HOST CAD system matches what you have on the CAM system (and eventually at the board shop). Scott, We use Cadence, Mentor, PADS, Accel, Visula, UniCAD and VeriBest. There are IPC-D-356 Netlist program available for almost all of these tools. In some cases we bought them, in others we wrote them. I am sure that you have been told that RSI can supply you with IPC-D-356 translators to all of the above tools. Good Luck, Steve Smith VP of Operations Praegitzer Design ---------- From: DesignerCouncil [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] on behalf of [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 1997 8:10 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [DESIGNERCOUNCIL] IPC-D-356 and ATE files Scott, I output IPC-D-356 from CAM350, using the ascii data file from PADS as input. This way it maintains the net names in the test report. I just started providing the IPC-D-356 file as a standard output this summer but it has not been used in a production run yet. Hope this helps answer your questions. Gary Shoemaker Allen Telecom ############################################################## IPC Designers Council Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c ############################################################## To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the body: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE DESIGNERCOUNCIL <your full name> To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF DESIGNERCOUNCIL ############################################################## Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information. For the technical support contact Dmitriy Sklyar at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.311 ############################################################## ############################################################## IPC Designers Council Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c ############################################################## To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the body: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE DESIGNERCOUNCIL <your full name> To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF DESIGNERCOUNCIL ############################################################## Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information. For the technical support contact Dmitriy Sklyar at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.311 ##############################################################