From a fabrication stand point, microBGAs are finding their way into more and more of the designs we are seeing. They do challenge our capabilities. The flash memory stuff is more moderate at .75mm and .65 mm pitch with lesser I/O. The DSP stuff at .5mm pitch is real fun. Some of those with higher I/O are being designed in with micro vias. These are pushing line widths into the <.004" range. I have built down to .002" so far. Have heard discussions down even smaller. WhoooooHooooo. Those are a REAL CHALLENGE! Micro Vias (blind versions) are generally in the .006" range or less. Some techniques are in the .008" range. They can made with some newer approaches/equipment. As mentioned, IPC has a Conference fully focused on this. As far as the uglies...... These approaches are proving themselves with ATC. Typically the aspect ratio is <=.7:1 (.5:1 preferred). For the laser drilled approach, success had been done using resin coated copper, woven FR-4, aramid fiber, thermoplastics (film based dielectrics), screened on or coated pure resins. Comingling....yep. It's being done. Some other techniques to produce the blind (micro) vias are plasma generated, photo defined, and electrically conductive polymers. (I'm sure I forgot a few......sorry) Assembly......can't help ya there. I know the CSP guys got it down. Some assemblers are doing great jobs too. Maybe they can elaborate some on this. This is a hot topic. I'm sure more feedback will also accompany this. The above comments are of my own opinion, and not necessarily that of my employer. http:\www.hadco.com:8080 Dave Hoover (aka, Groovy) NPI Mgr HADCO TC2 Watsonville, CA ---------- From: Dhawan, Ashok <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [TECHNET] FW: [TECHNET] microBGA's and CSP's ========================================================================= Date: Saturday, September 27, 1997 5:28 AM lang, we are also in similar situation and like to have info on these . So, technetts--shower info on this topic . We need your help. thanks in advance to all who will respond. > ---------- > From: Lang, Michael[SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: September 26, 1997 12:29 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [TECHNET] microBGA's and CSP's > > Has anyone out there done any work with microBGA's? Specifically, I > am > looking for information or discussions on: > > > 1) Stencil sizes and apertures. > > > 2) Microvias... The good, the bad, and the ugly > > > 3) Routing out on the PCB... What are the limitations > > > 4) PCB design for uBGAs... The laminates, thicknesses, technology > (deposition or etch), pad design, etc. > > > 5) Co-mingling uBGA's with 0.050" or 0.025" parts... > > > 6) To clean, or not to clean... > > > 7) X-ray requirements > > > > I wish to start an evaluation on these parts and would like to find a > good > starting point... > > > Thanks, > > Michael Lang > ITT Avionics > [log in to unmask] > (201) 284-2917 > > ############################################################## > TechNet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV > 1.8c > ############################################################## > To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with > following text in the body: > To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TECHNET <your full name> > To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TECHNET > ############################################################## > Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for > additional information. > For the technical support contact Dmitriy Sklyar at [log in to unmask] or > 847-509-9700 ext.311 > ############################################################## > ############################################################## TechNet Mail List provided as a free service by IPC using LISTSERV 1.8c ############################################################## To subscribe/unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in the body: To subscribe: SUBSCRIBE TECHNET <your full name> To unsubscribe: SIGNOFF TECHNET ############################################################## Please visit IPC web site (http://www.ipc.org/html/forum.htm) for additional information. For the technical support contact Dmitriy Sklyar at [log in to unmask] or 847-509-9700 ext.311 ##############################################################