Guenter, Thanks for the data. My interpretation is that, since 160 I/O QFPs have very compliant leads, global CTE mismatch between the package and the board has little effect on attachment reliability. Local CTE mismatch is probably dominant, with Alloy 42 and the board material working together against the solder joints (as seen with other Alloy42 packages). In that sense, your particular "Kevlar" situation is worse than FR-4, which your data shows well. I'd like to know the x-y CTEs of your CEM1, Aramid 1 and 2 to better understand and differentiate the crack data for the last three test vehicles. Still interested in your paper, it will be an opportunity to brush up on my German. Danke schoen, Jean-Paul ________________________________________________________________ Jean-Paul Clech EPSI Inc., P. O. Box 1522, Montclair, NJ 07042 - USA tel: +1 (201)746-3796 fax: + 1 (201)655-0815 Home page: <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/Epsiinc1/index.html">http://members .aol.com/Epsiinc1/index.html</A> _________________________________________________________________ In a message dated 97-01-06 05:17:56 EST, you write: << Subj: Re : Re: Woven Kevlar Date: 97-01-06 05:17:56 EST From: [log in to unmask] (Guenter Grossmann) Resent-from: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Jean Paul I published these data in a seminar about the reliability of solder joints in Germany at the CEM Neumuenster. The paper is in German so it doesn't help you too much. The test I did was passive thermal cycling:-20/100°C; 2°C/min; dwell time 30min. I'll fax you a graph where the average crack length in percent of the wetted solder length in the solder joints of a QFP 160 leads of alloy 42 after 2000 cycles is shown for some PCB materials. To avoid more E-mail send in order to fax the graph to various people I include the data in this mail. In the example, the cracks perpendicular to the main direction of the fibres where longer than those in the main direction despite the fact that the components body is made of plastic. Aramide 1 = Kevlar reinforced Epoxy, leads in the main direction of the fibres Aramide 2 = Kevlar reinforced Epoxy, leads perpendicular to the main direction of the fibres PCB Material I FR 4 I CEM 1 I Aramide 1 I Aramide 2 I Average crack length in percent I 8 I 20 I 41 I 100 I Best regards Guenter Grossmann >> *************************************************************************** * TechNet mail list is provided as a service by IPC using SmartList v3.05 * *************************************************************************** * To unsubscribe from this list at any time, send a message to: * * [log in to unmask] with <subject: unsubscribe> and no text. * *************************************************************************** * If you are having a problem with the IPC TechNet forum please contact * * Dmitriy Sklyar at 847-509-9700 ext. 311 or email at [log in to unmask] * ***************************************************************************