Well all I can do is give you my results that I have obtained for testing. Testing is conducted by first cutting the leads from the plastic body. After cutting the leads all the joints need to be checked at the heel to make sure that no damage has occurred. Using a specially made tool clamp the sample lead and pull the lead vertically from the board surface. This is the most common method and direction of pull hence it can be compared with other engineers results. Normally you will expect to see between 600-900 grams. One company I know has a minimum pull off figure of 250 grams which can be easily obtained. Bob Willis Process Engineering Consultant Electronic Presentation Services 2 Fourth Avenue, Chelmsford, Essex CM1 4HA. England. Tel: (44) 01245 351502 Fax: (44) 01245 496123 Home Page: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Bwillis Email: [log in to unmask] *************************************************************************** * TechNet mail list is provided as a service by IPC using SmartList v3.05 * *************************************************************************** * To unsubscribe from this list at any time, send a message to: * * [log in to unmask] with <subject: unsubscribe> and no text. * *************************************************************************** * If you are having a problem with the IPC TechNet forum please contact * * Dmitriy Sklyar at 847-509-9700 ext. 311 or email at [log in to unmask] * ***************************************************************************